Health Bill...so far
- 21 April 2012 23:23167178Keith you are a real spoilsport, trying to get the thread back on track!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - Keith Sansum1
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21 April 2012 23:24167179sometimes it helpsALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 April 2012 09:30167491The Private Healthcare Companies start to put their money where their mouths.....and where their future profits will be.
Dear Reg,
It's just been revealed that two big private healthcare companies are plotting to rig the future of our NHS. On Tuesday, Capita and United Healthcare are planning to schmooze leading GPs at a conference in London - the GPs now in charge of deciding the future of local health services. [1]
The big private companies have got the money to gain influence and access. But together, we can use people power to level the playing field - and invite doctors to our own patient-sponsored event down the road, just after their conference finishes.
Capita and United Healthcare hope GPs will stick around for free drinks on them. Instead we can tempt them over to a very different kind of event! They'll have the chance to hear from experts explaining the role patients can play in helping to protect our NHS - and why they need to listen to us, not just big business.
Can you chip in £1 to become an event sponsor? We'll put up the names of all the sponsors as GPs arrive at the event. The contrast with the big money corporate sponsorship over the road couldn't be clearer. And the GPs will see just how many of us are ready to keep up the pressure to safeguard our health service.
Are you in? Click here now to donate £1 and add your name to the list of sponsors:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/GP-event-donate
- Keith Sansum1
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23 April 2012 17:47167670will these privat companies stop at nothingALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 April 2012 18:32167704Schmoozing? I thought it was all about choice, something people on this very forum have trumpeted. GPs et al will have to make choices and will need the information to do so. Are you suggesting that a few free sausage rolls and a glass of wine will impact their professional judgement.....? I think we should be told. Those very same people will be practising medicine on you. Beware!
- Keith Sansum1
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23 April 2012 18:39167708shame it goes this way
but most of the doctors are not sillyALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 April 2012 18:41167712You wouldn't know that from the comments above. It seems you don't trust them around a canape in case their poor little heads are turned and they sell their patients for body parts.
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23 April 2012 18:42167715I hope they will attend both eventsALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 April 2012 19:15167730Oh Bern can I congratulate you for post 667 , you made me laugh outloud and probably prevented me comitting forumicide .
Ps remind me never to go to the GP with a sausage roll in my bag , they cant be accountable for thier actions around pastry
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23 April 2012 19:17167731of course our gp's are far more intelligentALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 April 2012 19:29167734.....than whom, Keith?I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 23 April 2012 19:30167735667&669,
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - Keith Sansum1
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23 April 2012 21:04167771peter;
not silly enough to be taken in by it allALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 26 April 2012 19:51168512For Information.
Dear Reg,
As you were one of the sponsors of Tuesday's NHS event for senior GPs, I thought you might be interested to see this article from today's Guardian newspaper:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/25/fight-for-nhs-is-not-over
I hope you'll agree with the article's conclusion:
"anybody who thinks the fight for the NHS finished with the passage of the bill ain't seen nothing."
Thanks so much for helping make the event happen. Your name, along with over 20,000 other sponsors, was projected up on the wall for the senior GPs to see as they discussed the future of our health service. Together we showed them that we are ready to work with them to protect our NHS - and that we will hold them to account if they don't.
I've pasted some photos from the event below so you can see what your sponsorship money helped make happen.
Thanks again,
David Babbs
Executive Director, 38 Degrees
PS: If you haven't got round to voting yet on what we should do next to protect the NHS, please have your say here:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-poll-april
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26 April 2012 22:33168552things are starting to liven up nowALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 3 May 2012 10:12170109Hinchingbrook NHS Hospital run by Private company Circle has £ 40 million depts but Circle maintain they will keep £ 2
million profit. - 3 May 2012 12:21170125a fuller account here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/03/hinchingbrooke-hospital-eyewatering-cuts - 3 May 2012 15:54170150I knew that would be pounced on. If they provide a better service and have a proper plan to clear the debt what is the issue? The people you and I were paying exhorbitant sums to do just that failed spectacularly. If these guys can do the job, why expect them to do it for free?
- 3 May 2012 19:55170221So making a profit out of ill-health is acceptable to you?
- 3 May 2012 20:04170224Many people make a profit from ill-health from our family doctors to the companies that produce new drugs and treatments to private medical insurers, private hospitals and what about the companies that make hospital beds..... etc etc etc
There is nothing wrong with profit, it makes the world go around and we must thank it because of the massive role it has played in eradicating disease. Profit was the motive behind the treatments that made my wife comfortable in her final months and behind the blood pressure tabs that I take.