Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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High Pay Commission report shows the elite greedy pigs are looking after the elite greedy pigs............
The remuneration committee is dominated by chief executives who set the pay of chief executives.............and is a
``closed shop``
eg.Phillip Bowman £ 2.3 million pa,....Ian Chishire £ 4.2 m..pa,...Paul Welsh £ 4.4 m..pa,...Sam Laidlaw £ 4.3 million pa.
Vince Cable is `hoping` to use shareholders votes to stop the rot......it is considered this will not control the abuse......
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The High Pay Commission is an absurdity and should be abolished. Pay is nothing to do with government unless it is its own payroll.
Keith Sansum1
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lets just let it all continue baz
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Of course - regulating pay is not justified.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Elite Greedy Pigs avoid paying tax legally..........Osborne takes tax from pensioners legally...............
For your info:
E-Petition to reverse the freeze on age related tax allowances
The N.F.O.P are supporting a new online petition started by pensioner Arthur Streatfield, from Bath. The e-petition was set up on Friday 23rd March calling on the Government to reverse its decision to freeze the age related personal tax allowances for the over 65s from April 2013. The e-petition already has over 45,000 signatures. The aim is to reach 100,000 signatures to prompt a debate in the House which will then provide a focal point for a lobby/demo. You can sign the e-petition by Clicking here.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/31778
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Tell me, is anyone informing those people over 65 who fall into certain age brackets that this change will actually benefit them? Or are they being deceived into thinking it is worse for them. The publicity I have seen claims all pensioner will be worse off.... Totally untrue.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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the truth will come out over the next months when the increases/decreases kick in barry.
Ross Miller
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Private sector pay should not fall into the remit of government - except where government is buying significant quantities of goods or services from them and then they should exert moral pressure and perhaps even contractual pressure to moderate pay increases especially in the upper echelons of businesses
However their is a moral and ethical point here about the narrowness of membership of remuneration committees and the apparent rewarding of failure. Frankly it is maybe time the consumer took the power they have and actually used it by refusing to purchase goods or services from those companies that apparently reward failure etc etc
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The truth is in the figures I deal with every day for my elderly clients Brian.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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of course we get into poster 549 who has all the answers
when in reality there are a lot of expertese among forum members.
ROSS is indeed correct in part of his comments on private affairs, and have to agree on the part about the poor decision to award failure.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Of course I have all the answers when it comes to things impinging on my professional matters. It would be worrying if I did not so that is a rather silly and pointless comment Keith.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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BBC Hardtalk this morning,John Lewis MD Andy Street said their economy plan in their constitution states that the
managment salaries could not exceed 75 times that of a cashier.
He said other top 100 FTSE companies have on average management earning 150 times that of employees
.........and management have just receieved an increase in their pay packet.......with the cut in the 50p tax rate...........
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The cut in the 50p rate will raise more money for the Treasury and the wealthy will end up paying more tax, facts you always choose to ignore that are backed up by a huge volume of evidence. It is no business of yours what anyone get paid unless you own shares in the company paying the salary or if you are paying the salaries through taxation. there are much more relevant things for you to get worked up about.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"paying the salaries through taxation"
Tax is everybody's business. And the 'take home' of everybody depends upon 'taxation'. ergo the take-home of everybody is everybody's business. QED
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Bravo!!!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Errr no - what you earn is your own money and the government has a right to levy taxes as you have a right to take action to legally minimise that tax bill. Once again we have a case of master and servant. Some here thinks we should all bow down and let HMG take whatever5 they want and be grateful for whatever we are left with. Where you do (or should) have a right to query salaries is where you own shares in a business or those salaries are paid out of the taxes you pay.
It seems to me that some of you are quite happy for HMRC to collect less tax revenue as long as the wealthy get punished (those that are foolish enough to allow themselves to, that is)
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I think at the bottom of the/any disagreement here is that on the one side; what I have is mine, and on the other, what you have is what I let you have.
The difficulty is that one group think they are the first lot and the other think likewise.
It is not so much HMRC as 'our' RC.
You see Taxation as a game Barry...just as long as you are assured to be on the winning team.
ALL money in the UK economy IS public money. How else can the entire public be set to foot the bill for the folly of only your team Barry?
As QE and taxation effect us all we all have a say.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I totally refute your attitude, the money I earn is mine as are the goods and services I choose to purchase with it. The government is not my 'master' - the days of serfs are well gone.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I totally refute your attitude, the money I earn is mine as are the goods and services I choose to purchase with it. The government is not my 'master' - the days of serfs are well gone.
Or at least would be well gone if it were not for: The secret policy forming dinners (sorry...kitchen suppers). The secret (well paid and well paying) contacts of anonymous lobbyists with policy setters. The attitude that you should be encouraged to stand upon your own two feet ("fathom"?) if you are poor, but encouraged to beggar-thy-neighbour, wave the very bread at him that he cannot purchase and blame him for his plight, if poor you are not.
That the love of money has replaced the Barons who replaced the king is not a virtuous circle but yet another unscrupulous triangular trade.
We are no longer master & servant. We are all servant to the lust for lucre. We are all now either house-niggers or field-niggers.
Please note there are no quotation marks used around the first sentence above. It has not been borrowed, but stolen/usurped/employed.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 546....desperate stuff itemising a miniscule part of the tax cut to pensioners.........scrapping the bottom of a
..........bottomless barrel.............need more substance without herrings swimming....................
# 559.....encore.............