Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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David is right. The Senate (let's call it that) needs to be no more than 50 of the great and good from various fields of life. Having ever been an MP or senior civil servant should be an absolute disqualification. Party allegiances must be left outside the door. The Senate should have the power to block silly laws emanating from the Commons, while leaving the Commons to get on with its daily business. The constant back and forth between the two Houses of Parliament is a stupid anachronism (ping pong is what they call it).
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Keith Sansum1
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another quango peter?
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The HoLs should go, no ifs or buts. I am all for a pool of experts on call to be included within committees discussing and enquiring into matters related to their particular area.
I don't think this pool of experts should include any churchmen or any of the rich variety of 'priest'.
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I am talking about a replacement for the HoL.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Where would they come from tom
who would select/elect them?
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Industry or the professions, for example, in other words people who have not been in politics all their lives.
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Keith, they would arrive by bus. Omnibus. I see no great problem with the idea of a Professional body putting people forward, sort of voluntary jury service.
There is, of course, nothing to say that I would necessarily have to settle on this or that particular plan today.
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Peter
So who would decide who these people were to be?
how would they be selected/elected?
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By you and me Keith.
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Some day's just don't begin well...
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To be filed under, Humour.
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Peter
wouild we ever agree on who should be put forward?
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Reg and BarryW to represent east Kent.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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wouldnt let barryw loose and hes been and is a political animal lol
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So is Reg. Keith.
Roger
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Keith, it takes one to know one.
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# 2081..2083..2085..2088..2090 and 2094.................
A year after Cameron became leader of the nasty party in his Scarman Lecture he said ``poverty
was an economic waste and a moral disgrace,we used to think of poverty in absolute terms,ie
straight forward material deprivation but we need to think of poverty in relative terms ie some people
lack those things others take for granted. He said his message should be heard loud and clear
.......the Conservative Party will measure and act on relative poverty``.....all talk and
trousers........
The Government has just admitted their policy on benefits and credit will push 200,000 children
into `relative` poverty.
The Institute of Fiscal Studies ( IFS ) found in its analysis of the Coalition welfare cuts.
The nasty party gives the richest 2% £ 3 Billion tax cuts and push 200.000 children in to `poverty` and millions of families made
worse off.
A Cameron headline in 2006........reality in 2013.....
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" Martin Kettle compares the idealism with which the US and Denmark approach their politics with the cynicism with which we do so in Britain (Obama's no Lincoln, but he has a touch of a Borgen hero, 10 January). Some of us would argue that when cynicism is borne out time after time it qualifies as realism. It's interesting that this appeared on the same day the Guardian looked at the government's scoresheet about its achievements. Unvarnished truth it isn't. The Thick of it is much closer to the truth than the West Wing, much as I am a fan of both.
I was an under-secretary in the DHSS during the Thatcher years when the last big attempt was made to reduce the social security budget. I cannot remember any minister expressing concern for the plight of those about to lose a significant part of their already low income. All the emphasis then, as now, was on how to present reductions in real incomes in the most favourable light. However, even the Thatcher government stopped short of the toxic language used by the present bunch to stigmatise the low paid and unemployed. But where is Labour while the government is doing violence to what's now called our welfare system?
US citizens seem unaware that what they call the world's greatest democracy is not only dysfunctional but run by big business, which buys politicians through political funding on an eye-watering scale. Until politicians of all shades demonstrate they deserve better we are, regrettably, justified in distrusting them.
Alan Healey
Milson, Shropshire "
From...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jan/18/politics-propaganda-on-screenIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Yes the mouse has let us down,
Peter it was you that put barryw forward(even though you said no politicians) i just replied
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Keith, both Reg and Barry have done many things outside politics and neither has been an MP or a senior civil servant. So they fit my criteria. Please keep up.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2126 doesnt quite say that as barryw and reg have been in or around politics most if not all of there lives
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