howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Latest from Charlie and what a great boost for the District.
Early years education in Dover and Deal has been ranked second best in England – out of 533 constituencies. Our pre-schools and nurseries are in the top 20% for both measures of early years education in a new House of Commons report. The study found that 97% of Dover and Deal childcare providers were rated "outstanding" or "good" by Ofsted. Meanwhile, 64% of children eligible for Free School Meals achieved a "good level of development" by the age of five.
Dover and Deal was also in the top 10 in England for primary school quality, with 98% of children eligible for Free School Meals attending primary schools rated "good" or "outstanding". We are now well above average for reading and maths in primary schools. Meanwhile, 9,643 children are attending schools rated good or outstanding – an increase of 2,432 since 2010. The hardworking teachers and childcare providers at our primary schools and nurseries deserve huge credit. We must keep doing everything we can to ensure our youngsters get the best start in life.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Peolle still asking is Charlie going bk into the party or going to fight election as an indy?
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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who cares any more, its been to long now,. he is either charged or the whole thing droped.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Amazing how the police can find the funds to hunt out crimes from years ago but take ages to either clear or charge those that are accused and whose families are suffering now.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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My heart bleeds for him, the poor little lamb. He's a fully grown man who will be well aware of whatever he has done or not done. The fact this his party has effectively disowned him tells you all you need to know really. The police do not have a responsibility to "clear" people. Whether they decide to charge or not depends upon a lot of complex factors - reliability of evidence, personal circumstances and, like it or not, the person's position in the community. Amazing, as you say.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Your prejudices are showing ray.
Is ok to leave someone with a slur on their character, cause worry as well as untold stress to their family? The fact it is a well known person in this community is not the point, we know about it only because of who he is this could equally be an 'ordinary' person.
I am of the opinion it takes far to long to bring charges and thereby court proceedings in far to many cases. I was witness to a very minor punch-up with no real injury to the victim. It was nearly a year before the case was heard then dismissed, this was after having turned up to twice previously only to have the hearing cancelled. The stress for the young man accused must have been awful and also for the victim and his wife who I vaguely knew.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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No prejudice on my account, Jan. I was merely making the point that he has been disowned by his own party. Personally, I doubt that that would happen without substantive reason but I could be wrong. I have no particular reason to feel sorry for the guy. Like I said, he's a grown man in a privileged position in society. If you're concerned about a slur on his character then you should raise the issue with the whip's office. And like any other individual, if there's has been untold stress on his family, then he should have the resolve and honesty to relieve it.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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He’s been stitched up and disowned by his party because of his high profile attempts to get the likes of Amazon and Starbucks to pay their fair share of tax on their profits earned from the UK. Such companies are some of the party’s most important paymasters. They will let him back in before the next general election but want him outside the tent in the meantime so they can ignore him. Allegedly. The ‘exploding bimbo’ bit was just a means to an end.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Charlie has been less vocal of late in his campaign to get big business to pay their "Fair share", maybe he has learned a lesson?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:And like any other individual, if there's has been untold stress on his family, then he should have the resolve and honesty to relieve it.
But you can only do that if you are guilty, so again that comment shows you believe he must be guilty.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Sorry, Jan, but I really don't follow that argument. And I speak as a family man too. The accusations made against him were (as I understand it) made at the height of the "me too" newsworthiness. Apparently, they were made by a member of his staff who accused him unbecoming behaviour. I use the term lightly. It was later alleged that this particular staff member had raised an earlier grievance over pay. I don't know what's true and what isn't.
However the Tory whips thought it sufficiently serious to disown him. The whip has not yet been reinstated as far as I'm aware. If he's guilty of opportuning the lass in question, then as far as I'm concerned, he's had plenty of time to explain and apologise to his family and hope that they accept his remorse. If he ain't guilty, then he must stick to his guns. I'm sure his family will believe him. There's no prejudice in that in my humble opinion.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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How can he "resolve it" when the accusation is still in the hands of the police and Chief Whip, whose motive I think Pablo has already explained #408.
I think we will simply have to disagree on this on this subject.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It was the Chief whip and not a group decision and I understand their is history between Charlie and Julian Smith. We all know that our MP was a Dave supporter and was rewarded by being made a whip along with Julian Smith. When Dave fell on his sword Smith was one of 6 MPs to back Mrs May for the top job and was rewarded by being made vice chairman of the household. In November 2017 he was made chief whip and almost immediately pulled the rug from under Charlie without even saying why.
The views that Peter and KB have expressed over Charlie upsetting big money has a lot of support inside and outside the Westminster bubble.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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By now, I doubt that the police have very much interest in this. They are stretched enough with real crimes and will not want to get involved with an MP who ALLEGEDLY pushed his luck too far with a disgruntled employee. He needs to make his own peace with his family, if indeed, that is really an issue. I know what I would do in his position.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Yes, I would pay handsomely for someone to dig the dirt on Julian Smith. That’s what I would do in Charlie’s position. Or set up a honey trap for him. Otherwise it’s asymmetric warfare. You can’t succeed by playing fair when the other guy is playing dirty.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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More from our Independent MP.
Nothing is more important than knowing you and your loved ones will receive the best possible care. That is why delivering a fairer share of healthcare in Dover and Deal is right at the top of my agenda.
That means bringing more services to Buckland Hospital and Deal Hospital. It means fighting for more GPs in our area. And it also means battling for better mental healthcare. Mental health is just as important as physical health – and it must be treated that way. That's why I fought so hard against plans to slash hours at Deal Mental Health Centre. Thankfully health chiefs did the right thing and have agreed to keep this vital service open five days a week.
And it's why we brought in a new trust to help local youngsters with mental health issues. Too many young people had been waiting far too long for treatment. The new team are tackling the backlog and the waiting list is now coming down. It's been a long battle – but things are starting to improve. Equal treatment of physical and mental health has been enshrined in law. Spending on mental health has now increased to more than £11 billion. The Government is boosting the number of mental health professionals by 21,000. And here in Dover and Deal, a few local heroes have been making a real difference. Take Tracy Carr, who runs the Talk It Out support group in Deal. I cannot begin to guess how many lives she's saved and how her incredible work has taken pressure off local health services. It's important that volunteers like Tracy get the help they need – and that vulnerable people know where to turn to in a crisis. That's why I organised a mental health roundtable last week to bring everyone together.
Tracy joined me and representatives from local heath bodies. We heard from some of Talk It Out's service users about how things could be improved – particularly with the Crisis helpline, which people are advised to call in their most desperate hour. We also heard how mental health services and caseloads at Coleman House in Dover have got better in recent months. And that plans are afoot for more primary care mental health specialists in our area.
There has been more good news recently with the opening of support charity Take Off's new base in Dover, which I recently visited. Their team are a real inspiration to everyone who has suffered from mental health problems. They have all battled through really difficult times themselves – and are now using their experience to help others. It's vital we work together to help people suffering with mental health. People need somewhere to turn in their darkest hour. The more we can improve local services, the more lives we can save.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think it's quite wrong to go on so long
Charge him or drop it
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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I think he has been told by the police that no action will be taken. However the party still seem to want to keep him in the naughty corner, probably for the reasons discussed earlier in this thread.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Pablo wrote:I think he has been told by the police that no action will be taken.
It says that in the first paragraph of the link in 417 but then says he has not been exonerated???