Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
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It depends on the nature of any evidence and witnesses, as you say if it is only your words against theirs then of course not.
Your last sentence comes down to the saying 'the evidence speaks for itself', they tightened the laws on domestic abuse in recent years to allow a prosecution to go ahead without the victims testimony.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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What on earth has domestic abuse got to do with this case? I fear you might be misinterpreting willfully my last sentence. The fact remains that if the principal witness is no longer prepared to give evidence then the CPS will not proceed. How you construe that as saying "the evidence speaks for itself" is beyond me.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Ray not trying to misinterpret I assure you, what I mean is, if an offence has been committed and the evidence is strong enough for a conviction then the CPS would go ahead with a prosecution, the domestic abuse is just an example.
There is a case in Norfolk I think, of a stabbing but the victim does not wish to make a statement, however the police are still looking for witnesses to proceed with a prosecution. But in Charlie's case I agree they will not proceed any further.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Surely even the anti Charlie brigade will agree with the sentiments expressed here.....
Remembering the Fallen
A century ago this week, the guns of the First World War fell silent. The Armistice of 1918 brought to an end a terrible conflict. Nine million soldiers and seven million civilians lost their lives. In Dover and Deal, thousands were left devastated by the loss of their loved ones.
Sunday’s remembrance service in Deal was packed – more turned out than ever to remember those who gave their lives so that we can enjoy freedom. I was honoured to lay a wreath of poppies at the war memorial outside the hospital. Over in Dover huge crowds turned out the pay remember the fallen.
I'm proud that so many people in our community honoured the sacrifices of our servicemen and women. Our role at the frontline, as the gateway to England, means we understand the importance of safety and security – and how military tradition is so vital to us all.
Throughout the First World War, Dover was a major embarkation port for all three military services. The Dover Patrol, a naval fleet that included balloons and seaplanes, was an important defence against the might of the German Navy. The first bomb to fall on British soil fell close to Dover Castle on Christmas Eve 1914. It was the first of many to rain down on the town. Many of the wounded came back through Dover, with the Marine Station being used for ambulance trains from 1915 onwards.
It is difficult for us to comprehend the heroism and the horror endured by our ancestors in that terrible war. Homes, friends and family were distant memories for our brave warriors in the trenches.
That is why we must never forget what they did for us – nor should we fail in our duty to stand by those who have served and kept our nation safe. That’s why we need to be there to support veterans as they battle the physical and mental scars left by conflict. The NHS recently expanded provision in this area, setting up a Veterans’ Complex Treatment Service providing a wider range of support than ever. Yet we must do even more.
We must also honour the covenant to the soldiers who served in Northern Ireland. Veterans who bravely fought against terrorism – the same terrorists that committed the most shocking atrocity in Deal – deserve to be honoured. Yet they are instead harassed in retirement, while the terrorists enjoy an amnesty. It is time to put an end to that and ensure those who have served our nation are able to enjoy their old age with the dignity and respect of a grateful national that they deserve.
Let us always remember those who have served our nation and those who even today keep us safe and secure. Not just on Remembrance Sunday. Let us respect and honour them every day of the year.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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"Throughout the First World War, Dover was a major embarkation port for all three military services. The Dover Patrol, a naval fleet that included balloons and seaplanes, was an important defence against the might of the German Navy. The first bomb to fall on British soil fell close to Dover Castle on Christmas Eve 1914. It was the first of many to rain down on the town. Many of the wounded came back through Dover, with the Marine Station being used for ambulance trains from 1915 onwards."
The major embarkation port was Folkestone, the last sentence above explains why.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Copied verbatim from kent ww1 website
http://kentww1.com/dover/Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Having looked at those figures the office costs seem over the top, not just Charlie. In the age of Google do MPs need so many research assistants? Accommodation costs suggest very many late night sittings, if this was the case why did four Kent MPs claim nothing?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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The basic salary aint that bad
but all these add ons,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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kent miners had ad on's, water money, powder money etc. not a bad thing unless your taking the pee of course.
Captain Haddock
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Whist I may be wrong as I have no inside knowledge, I don't think Charlie was one of the high spenders when he was still officially a 'Conservative' and suspect that much of the extra expense is necessary as he is unable just now to rely on CCHQ for research and some back-office functions?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Your aware Bob.
Charlie uses and advertised that he used the assoc offices
And they have given him full support
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Brian
I worked down Tilmanstone and hard fought for conditions such as when working in water should be seen as a union looking after and fighting for its members
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon wrote:kent miners had ad on's, water money, powder money etc. not a bad thing unless your taking the pee of course.
You forgot the coal whose excess to requirements we bought from our next door neighbour.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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sorry jan I forgot about the coal, had some nice warm winters though.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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just rememberd, I had a couple of weeks of sick, sitting out in the back garden, I over heard 2 old girls chatting about some power cuts and thare daily pints of milk, old dear its allright Gladys I wesh my milk bottles out before I put them on doorstep for the milkman to collect.had to laugh the street had a large cat population and the empty milk bottles stunk of cats pee.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Yes Brian
You will also recall coal was imported cheaply and from countries who's health and safety didn't matter
On top of this whole communities were tirn apart and thrown on the dole costing me and u a fortune.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Charlie and Cruella having a waffling competition in the Commons.
Charlie Elphicke Conservative, Dover
Yesterday in the Treasury Committee, we took evidence from Mr Thompson, the chief executive of Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs. He said that it would take 24 months from the moment of certainty to put in place a new customs system. He said that that moment of certainty could be next July, in which case we would have six months of transition, or six months of backstop. Can the Prime Minister tell us which would be selected, as well as how and by whom? If there is no moment of certainty, because there is ultimately no agreement despite the best endeavours both sides, will there be a risk of our ending up in an extended transition period, effectively a form of “Hotel California”? How do we resolve that particular risk?
Theresa May The Prime Minister, Leader of the Conservative Party
I have not had an opportunity to look at the transcript of the evidence that was given by HMRC yesterday. It was clear when we published our proposals on customs in the summer that the facilitated customs arrangement within that would be capable of mainly being in place by 1 January 2021, albeit that the repayment mechanism in that system would take longer to put into place. What my hon. Friend will see throughout this document is the clear intent and determination of both parties to ensure that we negotiate these arrangements in relation to customs and the free trade area, and indeed the overall future relationship, such that it is in place by 1 January 2021.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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at least there still talking lol
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yeah talking waffle.