Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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It is certainly time it was sorted, Keith.
His latest message ........."We need to believe in Britain and deliver Brexit
Leaving the EU must mean just that. That we take back control of our laws, money, borders and trade. That’s why the Prime Minister must chuck Chequers and seek a free trade deal – and be fully prepared to do a World Trade deal if necessary. We must make it clear to the EU that we won’t be bullied.
Why did the nation vote to leave? Because they believed in better. They believed in the kind of country we can build, where everyone has the chance to get on and succeed. Where we are free to run our own laws and our own economy in a way that works best for us – not Brussels.
The Chequers proposals put forward by the Prime Minister fail to honour the referendum mandate. We would be out of Europe yet still run by Europe. And it is now clear that Chequers doesn’t work for the EU either.
What’s more, the Chequers proposals would be bad for Britain. We would be tied to EU rules forever. We would never be truly independent. We would be saddled with regulations that work for other countries and protect big businesses from competition. These rules are also bad for hard working taxpayers, as they allow giant corporations to dodge taxes. They are bad for shoppers as they increase the cost of food and clothing to protect inefficient EU businesses. Nor would we be able to boost our economy through free trade deals with other nations. Chequers would not just be a bad deal. It would make our country poorer in the long term.
That’s why the Prime Minister must now change course. This week the independent experts at the Institute for Economic Affairs set out the sort of free trade deal the Government should look for. A deal that honours the referendum mandate and enables us to depart the EU as friends.
That would leave us free to build a better Britain. One where we can scrap import taxes on goods we don’t produce ourselves, so lowering prices for shoppers. Regulations that work for us and boost jobs and money. A fair immigration system seeking the skills we need equally from the EU or anywhere else in the world. And when it comes to Northern Ireland, we would agree to undertake all necessary investment and co-operation, so everything can be done away from the Irish border.
Last week’s failed Salzburg summit underlined the disdain the EU has for us. Their insulting and immature behaviour shows it may not be possible to get an agreement before we leave. What we must not do is beg for more time. It will make us look pathetic and weak. Instead, we should be ready to leave under a World Trade deal that would save taxpayers from having the stump up the £39 billion divorce bill. To strengthen our hand, we should turbocharge preparations, so we are ready on day one, deal or no deal.
The EU referendum was the biggest vote in British history. Some 17.4 million people voted to take back control of our laws, borders, money and trade. The Government must now deliver on the referendum mandate by chucking Chequers and seeking a free trade deal with the EU. "
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Charlie has now gone full circle from campaigning to stay in to demanding a no deal leave without mentioning how this would impact on his constituents.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Which tells you all you need to know about him, really.
Button- Location: Dover
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I don't mind him changing his mind (though one wonders about the motive), nor even inconveniencing his constituents for the greater good. It's talking a load of tosh that irritates me.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
I wouldn't trust him or his tory mates to deliver me a second hand car let alone Brexit.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,572
Whatever we think of Charlie it's time now to. Charge him or drop the case
It's a scandal it's taken this long
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Button- Location: Dover
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'That would leave us free to build a better Britain. One where we can scrap import taxes on goods we don’t produce ourselves' - like buses, for example. I mean, why pay (WTO) duty on a German/Polish Neoplan bus if we ever need one for a future referendum on some burning issue or other?
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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button moon, do we the uk build buses any more. if we do the company is either French or german owned.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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"Why did the nation vote to leave? Because they believed in better. They believed in the kind of country we can build, where everyone has the chance to get on and succeed."
Note that he cannot say "we". Charlie just backs what he thinks is the winning horse - at the moment he sees the ERG mob as being that, so he is chasing likes from Nadine Dorries et al. It'll pass.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Spot on Neil, originally he was a modernising Tory when "call me Dave" was on the throne and heartily backed remaining in the EU at the Referendum. Then backed Cruella until she sold him down the river, turned on her because he thinks the likes of Boris and Jacob are the future of the party and is now to the right of Nigel Farage. At least he is a good constituency MP and has an excellent yellow hard hat.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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And whatsoever king shall reign, still I'll be the vicar of Bray sir!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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#386 What case, Keith? As far as I'm aware he hasn't been charged of anything. Has anything actually come to court? I don't think so. It's his own party that have decided to hang him out to dry over alleged sexual assault. Personally, I think it's a matter of little consequence. He's just about better than useless as an MP but there's no local challenge with any real muscle unfortunately. The Tory hegemony will continue to bleat on his behalf, though. Mind you - they'd bleat on behalf of a donkey with a blue rosette or even Bob Frost!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Ray indeed it appears he was suspended and presumed the police involved
but most importantly no other action even though he remains suspended.
Far be it for me to try to get justice for a tory (lol)
its just plain wrong the way this has all been handled
time now to charge him or drop it
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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"the people who answered this poll won’t be representative of the UK public as a whole."
Most polls are unrepresentative in some way or another. They often steer the replies in a way the questioner wants by the way the questions are phrased, which is why they are fairly pointless.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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ray hutstone wrote:And whatsoever king shall reign, still I'll be the vicar of Bray sir!
Well I never appointed you.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Your Grace - I fear I will never have the temperament to be a man of the cloth. I'll leave it to the likes of Charlie to adopt the chameleon guise.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Question in the house to the person who cut police numbers.
Charlie Elphicke: Does the Prime Minister share my concern that
drugs-related deaths in Kent have doubled in the past three years and
that the rise in county lines operations means that there are now 48
separate gang operations there? Does she agree that it is important for
the Home Office to put more priority on ensuring that we win the war on
drugs?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Charlie on his visit to Aycliffe, I believe Brian took him for a drink afterwards.
We are so lucky to be British. Living in the developed world we have a level of prosperity that developing nations do not. That’s why it’s so important that we do our bit to help people in other nations with international aid. That was my message to pupils at Aycliffe Community Primary School when I visited last week. I had received a letter from the school’s “pupil panel” asking what was being done to help people around the globe. So I went to visit the school to discuss what is being done.
Speaking to the school assembly, I explained how aid is important – yet it must be spent in the right way. It should not go to nations that are able to afford space programmes. It should not be given to governments that make off with the cash. Instead it should go to the people who need it – to make a difference at the front line.
Our international aid budget has been doing much to help young people. Between 2011 and 2015, the UK supported more than 11 million children in schools across the world. That includes helping 430,000 Syrian children get better access to education. Meanwhile, we have helped more than 60 million people get access to clean water, better sanitation and improved hygiene conditions. These are real achievements that we should be proud of as a nation. I was quizzed about the importance of our work around the world and whether we are supporting the United Nations too. It was impressive how the children are concerned to see that we help children in poorer countries. They also care deeply about the environment and the future of our planet – and what we are doing to tackle pollution.
Inevitably I was also asked about Brexit, with one youngster asking: “What continent will be in if we leave Europe?” This question was an incredibly important one. It was about what the future holds for him and his classmates – and what our nation’s place in the world will be in the years to come.
Rightly so. For we won’t be cutting along a dotted line down the English Channel and pushing ourselves out into the Atlantic. We may be leaving the EU – but we are not leaving Europe. We must remain as outward looking and concerned with continental and global affairs as we have ever been.
I was hugely impressed by how kind, caring and compassionate the pupils are. Their parents and teachers should all be really proud. The ‘pupil panel’ team put a lot of thought into the questions they asked – and are clearly passionate about helping others. Executive headteacher John Dexter, head of school Jacky Cox and their team deserve great credit for the amazing job they have done at Aycliffe, which has been rated “good” and is now moving towards outstanding. We should all be proud of the children in our community – and their concern for others who are less fortunate.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
you mean to tell me the traitor was in my neck of the woods,
no howard I didn't buy him a drink.