Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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The Behavioural Insights Team is a spin off from the Cabinet Office and is the new big thing in government. It contributed, some say, to the late lockdown as the prediction was that people wouldn’t do as they were asked, which proved to be completely incorrect! That they are even thinking in this direction tells you all you need to know.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Is anyone really surprised that the Conservatives have turned to Mao for instruction? They haven't been conservative for years; but what they may actually be has become clearer over the last few months.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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bleeding fudge buckets.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Epic scenes from Liz Truss, the international trade secretary, today as she declares "no deal is better than a bad deal" in relation to a US trade deal. Groundhog day anyone?
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Actually I agree with her on this. What I would like to hear, however, (and I've been too hot to go look) is what tariffs have been agreed with EFTA and Turkey AND what rules of origin - ie. what percentage of components can be sourced from outside the UK and still have the finished product regarded as of UK origin.
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Button wrote:...is what tariffs have been agreed with... Turkey...
Oops - little point, perhaps, in pursuing a trade deal with Turkey, given that they're in/covered by a customs union with the EU.
Meanwhile, on the 'ready on Day 1' front, we have:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53101542. Alas, no mention of Common Transit formalities for hauliers and UKBF and their continental counterparts (and we're not just talking UK/EU trade here) from 1st January onwards. No mention either of the impact on traffic flows in French channelports from that date if EU exports move under the Export Procedure instead of Transit.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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History repeats itself. See INDECS in the 80s.
Immigration and Nationality Department Electronic Computer system at Bootle.
Instead of using the lovely ladies at Traffic Index in Croydon to match up landing and embarkation cards, allocate the punters an alpha-numeric code on the landing cards, write this in the passports, transfer this to the embarkation card on departure, leave it a couple of months, press the button and we'd have a list of all the overstayers and could round them up!
Brilliant.
The button was pressed and the tractor feed ran out of paper.
Oh how we laughed!
Meanwhile the ever helpful Lord Avebury had made sure that it was a stand alone unit and couldn't be cross referenced with the IU computer at Harmondsworth.
Meanwhile I was using the 'ways and means act' to access DVLA computer in Swansea for addresses and picking them off as they applied for driving licences ......
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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I remember the HMCE system that went live on 1st October many moons ago and, convinced in its own mind that the date was in fact 31st September, rejected everything fed into it. Happy days.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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As always, so many of the UK's problems are caused by our own lack of infrastructure and data capture.
In other Brexit related news, it would appear that Boris Johnson's desire to get a deal done by July is not, as he had claimed, to assist business know what is coming, but the fact that he'd long had David Frost lined up to take over the role of National Security Advisor.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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This popped up on my timeline from 2016. Anyone feeling gullible? Looks like 10 out of 10 to me. Yet still we blunder on.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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it will be fishing rights in our waters, that be the bug bear of the brexit talks.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Things are also getting interesting in the post Brexit wonderland. We're falling out with China at an astonishing rate of knots and it sounds like the political reality of a trade deal where the US says jump and the UK asks how high is also not going to fly in the Tory shires. So where will this leave 'global Britain'?
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Ah but NM we will at least have "taken back control" and "Got Brexit Done" and now we can follow the yellow brick road behind the munchkin in chief (A de P) with Dorothy (PP), toto (NF). the tinman (AC), the scarecrow (MG) and the lion (JRM) to the wonderland that is post Brexit Britain, which of course will be "world beating" at whatever we do, chanting the latest wonderful mantra of "Build Build Build".
So nothing to worry about
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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You're right, Ross. I need to be more positive about things. With that cast list, we can't possibly fail!
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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A fascinating intervention and a sign that with just six months to go, there is an outbreak of reality among Ministers who have hitherto been happy to cheer on the bandwagon.
I still maintain that with the consequences of a no deal so severe, that both sides will concede huge ground in the final weeks and everything will be agreed. The ERG hardliners will go nuts, but nobody will care by that point.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Neil. You jest?
We're out. We're off. End of .
If you really want to replay lost battles suggest you join the 'Sealed Knot'.
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Neil. You jest?
We're out. We're off. End of .
If you really want to replay lost battles suggest you join the 'Sealed Knot'.
It's got nothing to do with replaying lost battles. It's all about accepting the consequences of pyrrhic victories. The gormless triumvirate of Laughing Boy, Gove and Cummings won't relent, however much the evidence mounts up. Hence my question. Don't worry - you'll work it out one day.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Yes, we’re out and I accept that. But the future relationship remains on the table, and it is in neither side’s interests to not to strike a deal in that regard. PM doesn’t need to worry about ERG ideology any more as he has an 80 seat majority, so it should be straightforward.