Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,259
And we're back full circle to having a dig at the council!
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Reg could not agree more.These constant digs are not helping.The Town Council not all members I may add have upset me more than once probably my biggest battle was To get the memorial bench back in situ..Of course I will always remain upset that all street furniture Is now blue and wavy lines.The District crest was completely painted over.Still you have yo get on withlife.On another thread people are concerned over the closure of the soup kitchen.Society is failing when people are still needing these facilities.So please let us draw a line under what happened to the wreaths. We need to try and move on.
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Guest 1862- Registered: 23 Sep 2016
- Posts: 163
Well I agree. But if pointing out the true facts is having a go then I feel sorry for this town. Truth hurts. Brushing it under the carpet supports mistakes. People in responsible jobs are actually accountable to us if they allegedly represent us. I draw the line, knowing mistakes were made on both sides. Thank you Sue for agreeing with me on my comment about the soup kitchens . But just think on this, constantly drawing the line under it gives those who make mistakes the green card to carry on. RBL put in an apology. As the council represents us, are you happy to share responsibility for the faux pas in relation to this whole episode with them? ( based on the fact that a town clerk acts on the say so of the Cllrs) I know you have previously said you do not live in Dover but in effect you do. Looking at the map, part of River is in the St Radigund ward.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,259
I'm not sure I understand the issue of the town clerk giving H&S advice, if she did that's right, she has a responsibility to, but I fail to see a connection to early removal of wreaths.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I took off my postings on this one because I had not had time to talk to anyone from the The White Cliff RBL about it .
Now having done that today and they have said yes to me to tell of the very small part I played in this, and the taking in, of the Wreaths.
I have to go out right now but will do a posting about it later today.
But just to say now to the person who put in their post I claimed to have been in the Army,I say this Yes I done 6years in the army in the Buffs and Queens own Buffs,Because of my back and legs they got rid of me .but I had sighed on for 22 years but could come out after 9years.After coming out I then went into the R.N.X.S, which was unpaid and our place of work and office was the then pens which now have gone in the eastern end of the port of Dover. I have been in the R.B.L.many years most of the time in the Downs Branch and played apart in setting up their club years go ,and still going today.
I also played a small part in setting up the White Cliff Branch in Dover which today is a very good Branch,I stayed in the Downs Branch but will be coming over to the White Cliff R.B.L in the new year.So that is my back ground to being a member of the R.B.L.
I cannot give out my army number because it is still in use.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,140
I see there was another 'Act of Remembrance' at Harbour House
https://www.facebook.com/esme.chilton/videos/10154215849092568/
Whether this was instead a rather disgusting attempt by a pressure group to make a cheap political point which should be viewed with contempt I shall leave others to make up their own minds.
I know what I think.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just to add to this most of my own family have been in the Army or R,A,F and even the Royal Navy and we have a war grave out at the Bay.
What I would just like to say about what happen is please remember The White Cliff Branch is a new one with a lot of members that are not only new to that Branch but also new to the R,B,L, and some of them have carried out duty,s they have never done before and they have done and still doing very well and we thank them very much for the work they are putting into the branch and I hope what has happen will not put them off from helping to keep the White Cliff Branch open.
Going back to the Wreaths and what happen is the Two volunteers that done a great job being out in all that bad weather 7 days a week putting up the cross,s etc.
On the Saturday morning when they where taking the Wreaths away the weather was very bad and I happen to be passing and I told them because of the very bad weather they was doing the right thing in removing them if that had not been done the wreaths as we have seen in the pass will end up be blowing any where ,also as I said they were new to doing this job.So please do not put any blame onto them.They done what was best at the time.
After talking about it on the phone today I said if it happens again and the weather is that bad maybe we should take the wreaths away and find cover for them where the public can still see them it could be a local Church or even at the War monument at the Western end of the port where Remembering the fallen can still carry on.We will try to get it sorted out better for next year,There is no blame to be put on anyone or the council.Thank you,please can we now please move away from it now We in the R,B. L are there to remember the fallen of all wars and help the familys that are left behind ,and also members of the armed services.I am not very good at putting things into words but I hope in this case I have said the right words in the right way,Again Thank you.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
I note that the text has been amended to remove "Cllr" from Augusta's name.
Terry
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 1338- Registered: 9 Sep 2014
- Posts: 79
Maybe certain people who have posted on this thread should re-read my original post I did not blame anyone, I didn't mention the Council or the RBL I simply asked why the wreaths had been removed & that it had upset & angered me , it was for my own personal reasons. When I attended the Memorial Service it was to honour my family & my Father. It seems that Howard Mcsweeny takes great pleasure in referring to me as part of the " faux angry brigade " & his post about serpents has angered my family a great deal in particular my husband & son. I have every right to post on here I do not hide behind false names. Vic Matchem also said that maybe I should do something to help instead of complaining, my question is did he do anything ? Did Howard Mcsweeney do anything ? I am perfectly willing to help out at anytime, unlike some of you I look after my grandchildren quite a bit.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
I may be old fashioned but it would be nice to mark Remembrance Sunday without people with an agenda trying to get off on it.
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Guest 1338- Registered: 9 Sep 2014
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What is that supposed to mean Howard Mcsweeney? I have no agenda unlike you, I've never known anyone with an attitude like yours, I care a great deal about Dover,s war dead & wish to remember them every year, but you are cynical & nasty & for the life of me I've no idea why, what did I ever do to you ? I think my best policy is to completely ignore you so from now on goodbye Howard Mcsweeney you will not be missed, there sorted . I will happily post on here & let you talk to yourself
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Guest 1767- Registered: 1 Jun 2016
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How insenstive of you to say such a thing Howard McSweeney1, as you seem to "get off" on quite a lot on FB especially Appreciation pages on which you invite, to a page without their knowledge, and when they find out, promptly remove themselves, except of course two Dover Town Councillors; ie: Mr K Sansum & Ms. Pamela Brivio, who accepted your invitation and have made comments by posting. I really think these Councillors should explain their Code of Conduct to the Town Clerk, who I think would say "you should know better"! Please Mr McSweeney can you explain your actions? Hope you are now relieving yourself as getting a personal naming on here
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Guest 1767- Registered: 1 Jun 2016
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How insenstive of you to say such a thing Howard McSweeney1, as you seem to "get off" on quite a lot on FB especially Appreciation pages on which you invite, to a page without their knowledge, and when they find out, promptly remove themselves, except of course two Dover Town Councillors; ie: Mr K Sansum & Ms. Pamela Brivio, who accepted your invitation and have made comments by posting. I really think these Councillors should explain their Code of Conduct to the Town Clerk, who I think would say "you should know better"! Please Mr McSweeney can you explain your actions? Hope you are now relieving yourself as getting a personal naming on here
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Nice try my dear Lynn good to know we are still friends such a pity that you enlist your halfwit chums to back you up xx
Guest 1862- Registered: 23 Sep 2016
- Posts: 163
I am totally lost with post #54. What appreciation group? And what has the code of conduct to do with 2 Cllrs who regularly post on here. Are you saying it's a breach of the code if they appreciate something? I am totally confused by this. Please explain further. I am in total agreement with honesty and openness and if codes are breached, surely that is a matter for an investigation in front of the Leader. But allegations can't be made that are defamatory to anybody's character or standing in the community. Whilst I await a reply, I shall look up the codes for all 3 councils.
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Guest 1862- Registered: 23 Sep 2016
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Howard that is a very unkind remark. Not at all becoming of a gentleman, friend or not of Lynn. By the way, did you come to a decision about my invitation to attend at New College at Sandhurst. They are eager to hear your opinion and said that you can represent those who concur with your comments. The Academy Sgt Major would arrange for you to address all and he will advertise your arrival to ensure you have an attentive audience. So what do you say?
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Guest 1338- Registered: 9 Sep 2014
- Posts: 79
Thank God you can choose your friends
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
- Posts: 440
Anna Liesens wrote:Howard that is a very unkind remark. Not at all becoming of a gentleman, friend or not of Lynn. By the way, did you come to a decision about my invitation to attend at New College at Sandhurst. They are eager to hear your opinion and said that you can represent those who concur with your comments. The Academy Sgt Major would arrange for you to address all and he will advertise your arrival to ensure you have an attentive audience. So what do you say?
This should be interesting, I wonder if McSweeney will accept the invitation.
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Guest 1735- Registered: 26 Apr 2016
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Ive seen this appreciation page too & its disgustingly offensive ,Howard MacSweeney created a page to constantly slate & mock a lady who from what i can gather has tried to do some good ,And what s just as appalling 2 Town Cllrs called Keith Samsum & Pam Brivio are active members of this page ,Should this disgraceful behaviour be expected from 2 ppl who are in public office .These 2 should be hauled up asked to explain their actions, publically apologize & then either resign or be sacked ..Ive got EX & active members of HM Forces on my FB ,they too are interested in your remarks MacSweeney ,I side with ppl who i think are right and never could i side with someone who has slated HM Forces not to mention the solemn and respectful comemerations of Remembrance wk end