Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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As we know, all money-tree policies are promulgated by Bankers and their ilk, think QE, for instance.Do try to keep up David -
I'm keeping up Tom, I'm watching our debt grow on a daily basis. I'm watching inept politicians charge students to be educated while they waste £millions.
You keep shouting for more spending, you'll get your wish in the end
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent ....
Syria crisis: Vladimir Putin 'does not rule out' backing military action if evidence proves Assad
used chemical weapons
Russian President says evidence must be submitted to UN Security Council before any action
can be considered
Russia's President Vladimir Putin has said he would not rule out endorsing military action in Syria
if it could be proven that Bashar al-Assad's regime had used chemical weapons against its citizens.
Though he "doesn't exclude" the possibility of backing force, he said that action should only be taken
once evidence has been submitted to the UN Security Council and that, at present, he felt it was
"ludicrous" that the government of President Assad would use chemical weapons at a time when it
was holding sway against the rebels.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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During the Libya campaign, the oil facilities there were left intact by all sides: Colonel Ghedafi's soldiers, the rebels and the Western warplanes.
Therefore, so soon as the rebels got in to power, Libyan oil production went immediately back to its previous levels.
Since then, though, Libyan oil production fell and is now at 10% of what it was even one year ago.
The reason being, the Libyan state has fallen apart, and just about every tribe has its own armed militia.
Units of Libyan soldiers have recently deserted the government and taken control of an oil port.
Together with allied armed militia, they threaten to fight back if the Libyan government send in troops to evict them.
Shell has withdrawn from Libya, BP may be following suit.
Libya has become a non-state and is currently IMPORTING oil to keep the electricity supply running.
So much to Western intervention in other people's problems!
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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As far as what I have 'said' today is concerned, I have made no call whatsoever for 'more' spending.
Knowing my audience as I do, I'll restate things a Little simplistically:-
Add together the real cost, in monetary terms, of the proposed 'shelling' of Syria:thought readily available, and apply this amount to helping with the refugee crisis.
Therefore, not only is there no greater spend, but people will be helped, lives will be saved.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Hoping meanwhile a war won't erupt in Libya, Tom. Or in Lebanon. Or in Iraq.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Yes yes yes, Tom, just keep spending money we don't have. Forget priorities, disregard "the real cost", just give money to anybody holding their hand up.
Our elderly will have to work longer, our young will have to pay higher fees, Gary C will simply have to move to a smaller house, no problem.
Of course you may have evidence that the £trillion debt is simply not true.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1
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I follow David's line, which im still unsure as to what action he would take.
By his postings he appears to be saying none at all?
not even to help the innocent?
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Correct.
Keith, you say you love a debate how about this.
We're £trillion+ in debt, Gary C has to move house, you bleat about a living wage, you bleat about student fees.
Would you prioritise Gary over Syria?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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David (my old chum lol)
I think we should sit back at watch the USA get itself involved in a long drawn war.
It is interesting the Russians are playing both camps, saying the USA would be wrong to bomb Syria, but at the same time
if the UN has clear evidene that Syrian govt sent the chemical weapons then he would give support for some kind of military action.
I do feel we should look at options to help the innocent of Syria yes.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#267
"MP Charlie Elphicke said he also had his doubts about military action in Syria.
He added: "The view put to me by local people was that this was not our fight and they didn't want to see us involved in yet another armed conflict.
I understood this, especially after we were lied to time and again on Iraq. However, the use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons is a line-crosser."
Mr Elphicke added that although some say it was a great day for the Commons to "face down" government, he does not agree."
Come, come CE, you did the right thing, you did what your PM demanded of you. There is no need to sound as confused as your constituents;this was to be a punishment attack only and only involves Iraq as a form of self-aggrandisement.
And as far as Parliamentary approval for the attack goes, well we'll never know. Thanks to the farcical organisation of your Party and the lamentable leadership of you PM.
On the whole 7/10.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith in your 25 years as a councillor did you have budgets to work to or were you able to pull money out of fresh air?
So when Gary C has to move house because of cutbacks are you going to justify it by saying you've sent the money abroad?
You keep dodging Keith, you call yourself a socialist, I'll keep reminding you otherwise.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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part of being a socialist david
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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So come on Keith lets have it.
You worked to a budget, would you help out GaryC or send money to Syria?
Its no wonder the district is in such a state when blokes like you were running it for 25 years
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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You have no idea david
anyway I wont post further as I can see again david wishes to personalise the posts a little sad
but not surprizing
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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This from the bloke who yesterday called me "a silly man".
All very predictable from you Keith, you have no answers, just inane comments.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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after your abuse david(again!!) mine are always in reply
anyway you have a nice thread
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Oh I will Keith, I enjoy nothing more than reminding fake lefties like you what a mess you made of things at DDC.
I'm surprised you have the nerve to post, even more so Reg, he was leader of DDC.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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oh dear must be the heat, but an interesting thread has gone downhill with personal insults being traded.
the subject matter is far too serious for that to happen.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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25 years of declining Dover to your name
And you voted for expenses to go up, shameful
