howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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I got as far as section 4 but have run out of time! Not living in Whitfield I have little problem with the proposals. If additional housing is required then the location on the A2 makes sense and it may make a more coherent development than is there at present. I can't think of any other locations which lend themselves so well to this scale of development in this area.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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so how many houses there to be all you peeps that read it all and cant sleep lol
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Why dont you read it and find out for yourself Keith?
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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It's all very well building houses. People have to have the money to buy them.
If it's true that DDC has been touting for the unwanted overspill population of London boroughs while ruining our environment at the same time, then the idea is so wrong on so many levels that I don't know where to start.
What a way to ru(i)n a District, a country - and why is the environment being so undervalued here?
Hang your heads in shame, misguided bureaucrats. My extended family has farmed the land for generations and I feel a connection with it that is probably hard for someone brought up in an urban area to understand. I take this personally and will continue to all I can to expose the flaws.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think it was inevitable that whitfield would be developed further, i can't see any other part of the district more suitable.
the population of dover has declined over the years and to get the benefits of growth point status something had to be done.
another question is how many units are actually built during the forthcoming years of austerity.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Artificially importing problem populations from London to contrive growth which would not otherwise exist is downright reckless and a betrayal of the area.
I'm not advocating zero housing growth at Whitfield but neither do I want to see the whole area concreted over just to gain a few new shops and boost council tax income. What a terrible waste of precious land, and - that horrible English term "green spaces" - yuk, it implies we are living in one giant metropolis and that any non built-up bits are parks, grouting between the urbanisations. Oh actually when this all comes to pass, they will be, and I cannot believe more people are not more bothered a,out it.
We need to get away from this twee, prissy, London-centric suburb fetish. It seems to me life in England is all about constricting everyone - draconian, oppressive social rules relentlessly applied in an ever more densely populated, claustrophobic environment. A constipated world created by the complacent, pusillanimous and the dim.
Anyway, as Howard says, Mr Austerity will have the final say anyway.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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two different issues here andrew.
the proposed development at whitfield is for standard housing with not even any "affordable" units thrown in. ready to be corrected on the second part there though.
"problem populations from london" are likely to end up here because of the housing benefit cuts, but nothing to do with d.d.c. some local landlords are already licking their links in anticipation of letting out their run down properties to a captive audience.
on the bright side most will end up in the priory area.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Andy where did you get this rubbish about importing problem families from London?
Watty
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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It's a report that has been circulating in Whitfield for some time Paul. If you are confirming that it is rubbish I am very grateful.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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I can absolutely confirm no discussions have/or will take place re-resettlement of families out of London other than recognition of the points you identified and East Kent Leaders determination that this will not happen.
I hope that puts this matter to bed.
If you have/receive any substantive info please get in touch.
Watty
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Paul Watkins, there is no restriction under British Law as to who cam move from one part of Britain to another.
There is no way DDC could impose that only working people with a good income could move to Whitfield, and not unemployed people, or people working on a low income who may or may not lose their job at some point and then sign on.
Also, people who would move to Whitfield may have children, and these may not necessarily go to London to work, once they start looking for employment, and may be wondering where to actually find work in Dover/Margate.
I still have to examine the whole DDC core strategy, as one day I will most certainly present my case to the Public when asking that it be object to a revision, if necessary a public enquiry.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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I am not going to engage with Alex on circular arguements.
Let me state DDC does not have a policy to attraction inward migration of groups that fall into category that has been identified.
Far from that being the case we have enough local people who would fall into that category & I believe we would insert a local qualification if the accommodation was social housing.
End of discussion.
Watty
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Thank you Paul
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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"End of discussion" - not with Alex's record
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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It is with me Ray.
Watty
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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With all due respect, the debate will rumble on and on.
IF the plans come anywhere near full fruition a lot of people will be very upset about the rape of the countryside for the sake of a new town that will come to overshadow Dover, foisted on them against their democratically expressed wishes.
However well-meaning the intentions behind it.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Andrew, In the time when DHB made its core strategy, probably around 2008 in its development phase, The banks had still not crashed, the Eurozone had still not economically crashed, the UK economy had still not hit recession.
Youth unemployment had still not topped 22%, the Government had still not introduced drastic spending cuts (including a planned 40% cut in Council budgets), and the Government had still not planned to lay off 700,000 public sector workers.
All this seems to have gone over the head of DDC.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Sorry, DDC, not DHB
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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In fact, Andrew, in one phase of pre-public consultation, DDC stated that 4,000 new jobs were on the way, and that Pfizer would expand.
The premises on which they developed the core-strategy have changed completely.