Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Last evening 3 cyclists cycled up Maison Dieu Road, one on the pavement and two on the road, but against the traffic. A police car drove past them but didn't bother to stop. Then today I was about to drive off as the traffic lights turned green when a police car continued his way even though it was blatently obvious his lights had turned to red and he was in no particular hurry. A plethora of traffic infringements but no enforcement. I wonder at what level a breach of the law becomes enforceable in the eyes of the local constabulary.
Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
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#2
Another public service run into the ground like many,theres never been a better time to be a criminal than now.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
They reckon that 22,000 front line officers will be cut in the upcoming spending round, the police have already intimated that they won't attend homes that have been burgled now today they are saying that they won't be dealing with shoplifters which effectively decriminalises the act.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#4
Strange they can still provide police to patrol roads to catch motorists who might be breaking the traffic laws but can not deal with some real crimes that affect so many on a personal basis.
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Andy B- Location: dover
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#5
They love motoring offences,no hassle and easy prey.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#6
...and every motorist shafted is a crime solved-does wonders for the league table figures!
Never give up...
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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#7
So do I take it that some of you do not think that the police should be stopping people who commit driving offences. I by no means am a perfect driver but traffic police have a very important role to play and if it keeps people off the road who break the law then it is worth it.
I am sure a number of those that the police stop in their cars have committed other crimes as well. I certainly have no time for people who drink or takes drugs and drive or decide they can speed through the town or do 100 plus up the motorway.
Yes the police are struggling with crime but is that their fault when the government have made so many cut backs with our police forces while wasting money on Police Commissioners. I to get angry sometimes when the police turn a blind eye to some things, one being poaching (fishing in the Dour) but then I think hey they might just be off to somewhere more important.
When you see what some countries police are like, then we are not doing too bad, just wish the days were back when the Bobby could give some out of hand youngsters a clip round the ear.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
Going off at a tangent Harry mentions fishing in the Dour, I have never seen the river as well stocked as it is now. Going past the riverside centre last week I looked down and saw 4 large ones together near the surface and 6 young ones underneath on the river bed.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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#9
Harry, I do not drive so has no axe to grind. It is simply that I consider that the violation of a person's home and precious irreplaceable items being stolen a more important crime than many minor motoring offences.
The whole problem is that there are simply not enough policemen to do the day to day job. I suspect there are many stuck with filling in endless forms together with top heavy management.
Sadly it now seems minor crime will pay unlike years ago when policemen pounding the beat knew who were the petty criminals on their patch.
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Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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Point I am making Jan is that not all motoring offences are petty and things like driving with no tax and insurance is one such offence and all the time people drive like that we need police to stop them.
I agree there are not enough police and certainly not enough on the beat, but that is not their fault, they are in that situation where they are wrong no matter which way they try to fight crime.
You mention burglary, well I look after a neighbours home while they are away.One evening a light was shining through the curtains and knowing they were away I called the police, within minutes three police cars were at the house. It turned out a false alarm as they had a touch type lamp in the back room which had gone faulty, felt a bit of an idiot but the point is they were there quickly.
I do not blame the police for the way they respond to different crimes I blame the government and that's not just the present one.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#13
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"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#14
Perhaps if people stopped thinking they had a right to "not be offended" and also grasped that rights have corresponding responsibilities an awful lot of the bulls**t we see on social media etc would stop
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#15
Obviously when Ken first raised the point he was pointing out far lower incidents which we all see every day, cycling on pavements.
And the more recent announcement by the police on incidents they no longer (according to police) have time to attend.
it is concerning if low level crime isn't dealt with it could encourage bigger crimes.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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#16
Should this post be in the "upmarket Deal" thread?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
A police force launched an investigation after a man claimed he had been the victim of a hate crime when a branch of the Post Office refused to accept his Scottish bank note. Kent Police were called out earlier this month when 48-year-old Patrick Burgess accused postal staff of racism. He claimed the post office worker's refusal to accept the note amounted to a hate crime because it was based on nationality.
Mr Burgess was born and brought up in Scotland, but speaks with an English accent. An officer was asked to investigate the claim and it has been recorded for official purposes as a hate crime, which will feed into national statistics. The incident occurred on November 22 in the village of Walderslade near Chatham when Mr Burgess, who works for the Royal Mail, visited his local Post Office with his 12-year-old son, Daniel.
He asked staff if his son could deposit a Scottish £10 bank note that his aunt, who lives in St Andrews, had given to him as present, but was told it was not permitted. Mr Burgess said: "I was well aware that Scottish notes are not legal tender and shops do not have to accept them, but they are legal currency and therefore the Post Office should have accepted the note.
He added: "I asked if they would accept Euros, American or Australian Dollars. The cashier replied that they would. "I confirmed with her that the only notes they would not take were Scottish or Irish, to which she replied yes. In my opinion it's racist and it is a hate crime."Mr Burgess said: "I was angry at the time and put out a bit and so I went online to report it to the police. You are always hearing about hate crime and so that is what I reported it as. It was a bit tongue in cheek really and perhaps it was my sense of humour.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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#18
What a waste of police time and how to boost or should that be exaggerate hate crime figures.
I will happily accept any Scottish notes the Post Office refuse and pay them into the bank with no problem.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#19
It is a prob
And cyclists riding in a dangerous manner is the norm
Where Little crimes are left can become bigger
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