Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Bern, they`ll always be one there for you.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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well looking at this thread post 47 from victor sums it up.
time and a place in my view for everything.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I must admit to having a 'reckless beers sorry blears evening in the House of Lords in their members bar after being invited by a Lord (a mate) to a debate. It was cheap booze and to be honest we had a meaningful discussion on immigration...just before he slipped off the chair.So if thats networking I'm up for it.
Reckless's fault was that he got caught out boozing...most members don't..
I am not advocating that drinking' on duty' is for everyone i.e taxi & bus drivers but in some walks of life and business its an evil necessity. Sorry but that's the truth.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The UK has a very big drink problem and it starts at the very top as we have seen of late in the papers and the TV,and works it self right across the whole of the UK population and some how before it is to late it has to stop,and the last thing we need to see in the papers are the MPs drunk when working.
I do not think I have anymore to say about it.
Vic, re drunkeness at work, we are as one. Re drunk MP's and Councillors, we are as one. But, there is nothing wrong with drinking responsibly.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There is at work.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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colin
you are right, have to wait for my hospital treatment to finish first though.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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1. Reckless by name... - lets face it the man is an idiot, imbibed enough that; in his words "he felt it inappropriate to vote" on what is frankly the most important bill to face the house for some considerable time. He has ill-served his constituents and deserves to be severely censured by his constituency party.
2. there are jobs where it is inappropriate or a breach of terms and conditions to drink; such as train driver, bus driver, steel rigger etc.; however there are jobs where drinking is part of the culture and still in this results driven goal focussed time part of the role. Many of these types of jobs are indeed heavily dependent on networking and across much of the world networking and drinking go hand in hand.
3. There are no jobs where getting to the point of being incapable of following a debate and walking through a division lobby is deemed to be acceptable. In fact in most private and many public sector jobs this man's behaviour would have led to him being dismissed (after due process of course) not least for bringing the employer into disrepute.
Finally, we all really do need to take a step back and seriously consider the way we interact with others on this forum, too many posts these days are coming across as rude or condescending or just ignorant.
Remember:
Whilst it is nice to be important
It is much more important to be nice.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Personally I think we should give the guy a break.
He knows to his cost that he`s really mucked up big time and caused enormous embarrassment to himself and all around him. Of course it goes without saying that someone in that position should never get into the state that he did but I`m sure that most of us have been in the " but for the grace of God" type scenario at sometime or other in our working lives.
I`m sure, also, that he knows only too well that he`s now well and truly in the "last Chance Saloon", (no pun intended!)
Ross, top post mate, thank you.
John, I have been there and survived, by the skin of my teeth. It taught me a lesson for life for sure.
Ross, as ever, a welcome post. Thank you
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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What has drinking at lunchtime got to do with party politics?
True friends stab you in the front.
Received today:
The Urine test (This was written by a rig worker in the North Sea -
What he says makes a lot of sense!)
I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.
In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig for a drilling contractor. I am required to pass a random urine test for drugs and alcohol, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a benefits cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.
I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse, drinking booze, smoking dope and generally taking all kinds of drugs.
Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a benefit cheque?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sid
Sounds like a good idea...but the problem is that civil liberties would soon be on the governments back plus the cost of a pi55 test and the time taken to process the tests then the right of appeal...ad infinitum...would make it unworkable.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Bob, I found out that William Butterfield directed the second restoration project of the Roman light tower at Saint Mary in Castro in the late nineteenth century.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Rather, he directed the restoration of the church, not the light tower. Is he the Mr. Butterfield you refer to in your moto?
Marek - there are less expensive drug and alcohol tests used in prisons and secure mental health units which could be used, and what a bloody good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bern
The only trouble with pi55 tests is that when they were introduced in the Prisons,for testing inmates, that many switched from cannabis (which shows up in a test 30 days after use) to heroin (which remains in the system for approx 24 hours).
Plus you then have the problem of prescription drugs which may contain opiates it's a minefield..but I'm sure there could be ways around it.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I hear that Labour are planning another filibuster tonight on the Finance Bill and it could be an all-nighter. Finance Bills cannot be guilottined so it is a long established opposition tactic to gum up the works with long rambling speeches (always boring). After the other night Labour sources say we have 'seen nothing yet'.
You really cannot blame any MP for having a few beers for putting up with that! They have to hang around in the vicinity of The Commons to await the vote, if they drift off there could be an ambush to defeat the bill. I know where I would be if I was an MP tonight, definately in the bar and if hot on the terrace, nursing a few pints, but not enough to get drunk I should add.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
the new maybe old rules encourage late night debates so that our honourable members can claim a night in a hotel on expenses.
the miscreants know exactly how to keep a debate going.