Keith Sansum1
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7 October 2010
21:2174143Alenader;
share your view.
Very thin line between havng a larf, which im all for and comments such as Brian's.
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7 October 2010
22:0674157Back on the subject of the 'cuts' I've just read this on another blog and I couldn't put it better myself (and that's saying something!)
'Will we see a drop in our standard of living? I do hope so. We have been living beyond our means for too long. Can you cook a meal from scratch without having to "source ingredients" from John Lewis? Could you walk three miles to work? Darn a sock? Sharpen a knife on a whetstone? Read a book? Change a fuse? Mend instead of spend?
When you hear the protests outside, it is not about the fear of starving to death or being homeless. It is the fear of missing Eastenders because you had to get the bus home instead of driving. It is the fear of disappointing the little ones by not buying them everything they see for Christmas. It is the fear of not being able to brag about the holiday in the Maldives or the trip to Disney Granny so desperately wanted. It is the fear of not being able to buy the full Man Utd away kit or the iPhone 4.
The chickens are coming home to roost. The smart ones amongst us already know how to kill, pluck, draw and cook one. The rest will still be looking to useless career politicians to deliver piping hot chicken in a basket to their homes (but not whilst X Factor is on) on the never never and hope their grandchildren will be able to pick up the bill.'
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 October 2010
22:1974159bob
are you trying to say that my takeaway will be delayed?
if that is the case i shall waste no time in contacting those respectable lawyers that advertise on sky, in order to gain my rightful compensation.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 October 2010
04:2274167Although I agree with Bobs sentiments that is still not a good enough reason to withdraw the benefits from the poorer sections of our society like the aged and infirm that have been mending and makng do all their lives. Like the poor parent that has been smacked around,sexually abused and can no longer step outside the house for fear of their own shadow.
Universal cuts don't help nearly everyone using this forum is 'relatively' well off in comparison to some and I have forgone any JSA or dole money,child benefit or my right to a state pension because of my political leanings.
If the author of Bobs piece has done the same I would be surprised. So as he/she sits on her/his smug arse pontificating and trying to be witty maybe its better they first cast their eye over themselves before judging others!
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
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8 October 2010
04:2974168Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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8 October 2010
07:3174184I think IDS, F Fields etc are on the right track, but have based this all on as mr Cameron keeps stating, middle classes and higher earners paying there share.
But a bad flaw has already been recognised (highlighted grandly by Marek) on income in the family, where a couple can earn £79,000 between them and continue to get child benefit yet some single person earnng £44,000 won't.
Something wrong there.
And they not happy.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 October 2010
07:4774187I agree Keith, it should not be based on a single earner getting £44,000, but the total household income.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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8 October 2010
13:0774215ROGER;
I realise mr Cameron want's to save face, but he has got this badly wrong, it Isn't fair.
Look's like he won't back down, will be costly .
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 October 2010
14:1774221Actually I suspect the problem really here is that this should be looked at in the wider context.
Lets face it there will be a lot of very controvercial decisions to be made and someone will cry unfair on every-one of them.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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8 October 2010
15:0374224Just because Im a Conservative It does not mean I agree with the child benefit scheme .Why are a couple with a joint income of say £78,000allowed a benefit when a wife who stays at home and husband earns just over the threshold not allowed the benefit?It should be based on total income .
I have written to our MP .
This does not encourage family values .
I believe this scheme needs a rethink .
8 October 2010
16:3374234I think you are missing the point - correct me if I am wrong Barry - you are the expert - this is the first step which stops for half the situations - thus seems unfair. Part two needs a review of the tax system. ask Ed Miliband - he's taking advantage of that by not being married. I suggest that the long sighted view will mean that the loophole of separate taxing will be the next target - thus evening up the field.
DT1- Location: Dover
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8 October 2010
16:5274236Interesting post Bob, but I'd have to agree with Marek.
While I have no time for Eastenders, Man Utd kits or the X-Factor (I'd rather shoot myself right now), it depends what you see as 'too easy'. You might want to think about this on the HST to London to watch the opera? Or even whilst eating your Yaki-Udon with your titanium chopsticks. I don't agree with many people's choices but I'm not sure the snob who wrote this has got it quite right either. At least we can all enjoy the V&A, as our major museums are free...until of course this idea falls victim to cuts! I mean, what sort of monetary return is there from culture? *tongue firmly in cheek*.
At more more fundamental level I have to seriously disagree with you...No.44 - Ginger Chicken Udon. Saying this I make it just as well at home although I do not kill, pluck or draw the chicken.
It's all very well forcing stereotypes onto people; however we just have to be careful we don't turn into stereotypes ourselves.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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8 October 2010
16:5574238Has anyone on the Forum actually reassumed in a few words that the economic situation in Britain is getting worse and not better, and that the long-term prognosis is that it will get worse and not better?
Would this not be a reason to reconsider e.u. membership, or at the very least the (very UNreciprocal) functioning of economic relations within the e.u?
I notice that the e.u. supporters never even discuss the evident disparities existing within the e.u., which means that there is not even any intention to improve the plight of e.u. membership!
This is cause for concern, because it makes one wonder HOW our Country's economic situation can ever improve. With minimum salaries in eastern Europe being at the most half of what they are in the West, this is a lost battle for survival.
Exports to eastern Europe: forget it!
Prospects for British and Western Europeans to find employment in eastern Europe: out of the question!
Prospects for employment for British and western Europeans in Britain and western Europe: 77% of jobs given out in Britain in the first 3 months of Tory-Lib gov. gone to non British people! PER PRINCIPLE!
I know that the e.u. supporters don't like this speach, but what gets me is that they never even mention the evident disparities within the e.u.! Not even to improve the situation of our and other western countries while still in the e.u.!
As I stated, this is cause for concern! Because in a situation of such manifest unfairness, fair trade and commerce and employment are all a lost cause in the West!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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8 October 2010
16:5974239In fact, I think the laws governing fair trade and commerce and the right to employment have been massivly hampered with by the e.u. parliament and commiossoners' offices, and that unlawful things have happened, and that this is one of the main reasons of our present State-bankruptcy!
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8 October 2010
16:5974240O.K, I'm taking cover!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 October 2010
17:1774248actually i agree with most of what you have just said alex.
this new government just like the last one rattles on about the opportunities for us to work in eastern europe.
couldn't write a comedy sketch as good as that.
Brian Dixon
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8 October 2010
19:3374294alex,just think you could apply your painting and decorating skills in 27 countrys,a good oppertunaty not to missed.
8 October 2010
20:3474303Bob
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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9 October 2010
14:0474352Well, now we see more comiings and goings on the child benefit fiasco.
The following comments did not come from the Labour benches,
"It'll be a shambles" , "It'll collapse"!,
"What wll happen is parents that need it wont get it,
other parents wlil get what they don't need,
It will end up as a pigs ear""
Was those comments from Ed Millband?
nope they were from;
Liddell-Grainger Conservative MP, and parlamentary all party tax group chair!!!.
And then we hear other comments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The problems would be compounded because theres to many unanswered questions,
Who said this? Denns skinner? Ed Milliband? nope, it was none other than
Chas-ray Chowhury, from Association of certified chartered accountants.
Oh dear, it's not looking good
poor David's
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 October 2010
15:5774356a lot of things need to be ironed out on this one, maybe it will all die down and be forgotten?
easy to do over 3 years.
Marek