Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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KCC do not offer recycling facilities to businesses, we can take waste for landfill to the KCC tips but have to pay to dump it.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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the waste disposal is in disarray, ian refers to the beauty spot dumping but i was in folkestone town just over a week ago and even the main roads suffered from flytipping.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This has been discussed a short time ago.
If you don't want to sign up to this green waste collection, there is no compulsion to do so.
If you have a small to medium sized garden and wish to compost your green waste, you can buy discounted compost bins from DDC.
If you have a large garden, then being able to have up to six bags at a time (fortnightly) be taken away for a year, for £40 I don't consider too expensive.
It helps keep your council tax down and you don't have to join-up if you don't want to.
Fly-tipping of any sort of rubbish is illegal and fines can be as high as £5,000.
Roger
Guest 665- Registered: 24 Mar 2008
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As I mentioned in another topic, I would only use the service very intermittently. I therefore consider £40 for the year extortionate and will not therefore take it up, and will carry on taking it for disposal myself. I am lucky though that I can do this. If payment is the only way forward, surely there must be some middle ground that is fair and does not disadvantage those who have no other option?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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What an odd sight that is Howard. People can put the top onto an empty bottle but cannot then dispose of it correctly.
Would it not be possible to have bins in local parks where people can take their garden waste? This may go some way to give the council the compost/mulch it needs.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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well looks like the administration at the District whilst applauded for getting the recycling is looking to fail badly in the longer term.
Seems strange to encourage people to recycle then start charging
can see many unofficial rubbish tips coming into play should this charge go through
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It appears that the charge has been brought in order to expand the service. As it is, they say, only about 72% of properties are able to avail themselves of the garden-waste service.
How many of those who clamour to be included are prepared to cough-up nobody will know until late March...
http://www.dover.gov.uk/waste__recycling/new_garden_waste_service.aspxIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Oh noes! More saving the planet nonsense. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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excellent observation from tom in post 26, very much like the empty energy drink cans lobbed in the river.
liked the idea of leaving garden waste in our public parks where it could be of use.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Peter #21, thanks for the correction, that's what I meant to say but rushed the comment. It was in the online consultation that closed recently and was discussed at the consultation meeting that Vic attended recently, I'm sure he'd be happy t tell you all about it.
I always understood the reason 28% didn't get it was because of 1) access problems for the collection vehicles 2) they lived in flats and only had window boxes. I can't see enough thinking it a worthwhile service unless you have a very large garden and can use most of the allowance. That seems to be the view on here.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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One interesting aspect of all this, and the one I know nothing about, is the long/newly established contract for the collection of the waste.
If it is not an in-house, council run business this change is bound to throw the contractual arrangements into disarray.
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I told you last year when we rather this Council signed up in a combined service with Shepway then the next step would be to charge for green waste,as I pointed out then we cant be on the same contract if Shepway charge £35 for green waste.
The Council would not answer me then but I think I have the answer now.The only green waste I have is the leaves from a Council tree outside my house and I am not going to pay £40 to the Council to take away thier waste,I will put the leaves back on the pavement.No green payment for me and extra for the road sweeper to pick up.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
As we have a couple of councillors replying I have a question for you.
Will a carrier bag full of 'garden waste' be taken out of the wheelie bin or will that amount be accepted, this will be the amount quite a few properties might have a fortnight.
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Listen up guys something must be done. The planet is dying we all know that. Complaining about grass cuttings shows just how out of touch you all are. I mean, like, there are nations out there, good nations working towards making the planet survive, who are doing their best. Like, look at this dudes. If they are making sacrifices ask yourselves why can't we?
http://goo.gl/ooWDxGuest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Philip, you are quite right. At the international level this Global Warming/Climate Change stuff is all bull. In that things are arranged solely to the benefit of big business with little, but more usually nothing, to do with fixing anything for the population of the world.
Foot-pumps instead of diesel? That is rich...
There is already the perfect solution to this problem that requires little time or effort in terms of man-hours and needs NO fuel to run, not even rice or potatoes. This is the Ram-Pump.
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Recycling, composting etc., at the local level, is valid though.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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As no comment was made about it the first time round, I'm posting it again.
"If you don't want to sign up to this green waste collection, there is no compulsion to do so.
If you have a small to medium sized garden and wish to compost your green waste, you can buy discounted compost bins from DDC.
If you have a large garden, then being able to have up to six bags at a time (fortnightly) be taken away for a year, for £40 I don't consider too expensive.
It helps keep your council tax down and you don't have to join-up if you don't want to.
Fly-tipping of any sort of rubbish is illegal and fines can be as high as £5,000.
Roger"
As I said above:
1) You don't have to sign up for it.
2) If you only have a smallish garden (like Claire said), buy a discounted composter. 3) This would save you money on (not) buying compost for your garden plants.
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well Roger. You posted that twice and I have read it twice.
Somewhere in all of this is the point that this 'change' means mere pennies per bag of garden waste collected.
As opposed to what?
The pennies that are already being paid?
The pennies that would be paid in higher council tax?
Is this not simply a cash generator and a Party Political wheeze? A double or wizard-wheeze even.
What if many are encouraged to find alternative arrangements? Many avenues are open that will not increase revenue.
So, let us think the unthinkable. Too few sign up leading to the sacking of the work force...and whose fault will that be...the parsimonious resident?
The time will then be ripe to increase the Council Tax to pay for...increased use of land-fill, compost and mulch?
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Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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Some people will as said go back to having their own compost heaps which is good but sadly others will not. I fear a number will take to having garden fires by burning their garden waste and others will dump it in the River or anywhere as long as it is out of their garden.
