Keith Sansum1
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Lets take your post as you wrote it;
1; The criminal rights act could be better, was a good idea, probably needs reviewing, although some of the arguments
against it are based on judges making decisions, sometimes out of politicians hands that could be a good thing
2;There is much in political correctness I don't agree with so please don't pre judge me
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3' The tories, after lots of promises have done no better than labour(in fact they are worse)
4; People will decide on the day, and the UKIP influence, and how popular they are in 2015 will be of interest
5;Think labour has learnt and will be quite different,
6; I don't share your view on milly, he does ok, but I feel the party should lean more to the left, but that's just me
but as a leader he does as well as the mouse(that's not saying much though)
7; People will vote Labour and they will in my opinion be the largest party, although not enough to have overall control
we will then see a bun fight between the parties
8;We agree on the weak leadership by the mouse
9; the rest we have discussed before and won't ever agree on
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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With Labour there is a chance Joe Public will get a look in but they may have to borrow the Tory
long knives that lay in waiting for Cameron.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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reg
You are saying joe public will have to borrow
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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There is a misconception that UKIP voters are exclusively disaffected tories. Peter Ripley is an ex labour councillor, do you lot have our own Keith B down as a tory?
Labour have no message, Cameron is weak, I really hope we see the smaller parties make gains at the GE
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Of course Keith S will be spoiling his ballot paper anyway
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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No surprize your beating the UKIP drum David
In reality I don't think UKIP will make the breakthrough, but that's realy down to how much more this cobbled together lot make themselves unpopular
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You clearly didn't read my post Keith.
UKIP are making gains in labour areas, look at South Shields.
Anyway I don't know why you're banging the labour drum, you wrote to the Express telling people not to vote labour, you want to make your mind up.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It does appear that closet tories are becoming UKIPpers.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Reg can't read either.
To be fair he must be able to, its comprehension he struggles with.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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David
I always read your posts, it was also viewed that only 10% affect on labour, tories harder hit.
There is no doubt that the latest protest party(UKIP) do appear to appeal to cross sections of the community, but when they come more under the spotlight closer to 2015 and of course also when the die hard tories cross the floor back to the tories
from there last protest vote, this will show that UKIP was a flash in the pan.
You are correct on my view on Labour, it the worst of 2 evils at the moment, thus one of the reasons why I wont be voting for them either.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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If the unions want to support British workers they would be better of giving to ukip
Keith s IF the uk adopted a democratic voting system things would look very different
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Keith b
Of course I don't agree
Why give dosh to UKIP who are no better than the main 2
there is a democratic voting system already
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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one of the main planks of ukip's policy is a clampdown on importing cheap labour so it would follow that unions would be more likely to fund them than any of the other parties.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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If you listen to Bob Crow's views on immigration he sounds like a UKIP rep
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Another UKIPper ?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/270311/We-have-to-quit-the-EU-to-protect-British-jobs-says-union-boss-Bob-Crow
Interesting to hear what Reg and Keith have to say about that.
Probably nothing, Reg is your archetypal champagne socialist, he has no interest in or connection with working people.
Keith idolises Crow, he'll agree we should leave the EU
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Read the article, David, idolise??????? no, I just, having worked closely with Bob over many years, I have seen his left wing credentials, of which nothing gets in the way.
You will see that Bob comes from different ideals to that of our David.
Bob ISN'T saying pull up the ladder im alright jack, he's a great believer in the working classes no matter what country, you will see in the article a small reference to Indian workers.
The RMT has a proud record of defending/working with many workers throughout the world.
So whilst Bob calls for a pull out of the BOSS''s EU he has a far wider agenda, one that probably David doesn't support
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just reg'd this piece from the article, bob is clearly in line with mainstream working people.
"RMT isn't messing about. We support British withdrawal from the bosses' and bankers' Europe that has unleashed misery for millions from Athens to Madrid and on to the production lines of Bombardier in Derby. This isn't a debate that should be dominated by the political and chattering classes. We want working-class voices to be heard."
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You will see that Bob comes from different ideals to that of our David.
Why do you post such nonsense?
As Howard says, Crow is clearly in line with public opinion, its the failed dinosaurs like you that are utterly clueless.
Do you support withdrawing from the EU Keith?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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My own view is that the questions of the pro's and cons of pulling out of the EU remain unanswred its also appears that the RMT has returned to the fold of the TUC something that the RMT distanced itself from Bob has given a view, but has a far wider agenda that just pulling out of the E.U.
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