Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,599
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#2
so long as they don't turn off the lights in some of our already badly lit streets, shouldn't be a problem.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#3
I do not think any street that is regularly used by pedestrians should have their lights turned off as so many people now work shifts, I would not object to lights being dimmed.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#4
that is the problem with dover jan, so many people walk home late at night after shifts in the docks or care homes.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
- Posts: 727
#5
I hope they don't turn the one off outside my house, since they put a new bulb in a month or so ago I don't had to use any of my own lights, it's saving me a fortune!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
#6
We have looked at KCC proposals and have fought to keep some of the streetlights that they wanted to turn off,eg Whitfield Hill and at Farthingloe because of the use at night and also thanks to Nigel Collor who supported me they are emergency roads in cast of problems at Jubilee Way and the M20.There are very few lights in Dover because as it was pointed out the Town is a 24 hour Town
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
#7
But cast ion Dave Cameron will be giving £630 million to Pakistan
And £300 million to Poland for road improvements
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#8
Well as long as its on the outskirts not so bad
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#10
Some two years or more ago I was aske to go to a meeting at K.CC HQ as a parish Cllr and I went along and at this meeting we was all aske what we think about it.
I got up first and said some lights in a street could be turned off not all and some the power could be lowed but we should never put any street in a town or parish into darkest yes to M/ways lots of lights can be turn off but not in towns it will make them look unsafe and stop older ones going out in the night time.
If you go ahead with this it will be a very bad move most at the meeting got up and said the same along them lines.
Why do they keep calling us in to meetings like this go on to say that they will take in what we say and act on it yet again they have not taken any notice of anything we was talking about and gone ahead anyway.
Then they moan because not many turn up at meetings.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
#11
.........A KCC spokesman said: "Where streetlights have been dimmed or switched off, data shows that crashes and crime have not increased.
"Light pollution and costs can be reduced in locations where the street lights are not contributing to safety at all."
So along with carbon dioxide light is now considered to be a pollutant. I'll bear that in mind and try not to breathe to deeply the next time I pass a street lamp.
Damned fools.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,599
#12
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#13
i thought the term "light pollution was applied over in lack of ability to see the stars.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
#14
It is Howard.
Roger
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
#15
Er, I do know what light pollution is. To think of the thousands of gleeful astrophysicists and amateur astronomers in the area who delight in the idea of clear skies. Where is the nearest observatory by the way?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#16
My back garden but what I will say on this one about two years ago mywife and myself went up with the B,B,C, night astronomers which you can still get up on B,B,C two.
We went up over Scotland at 39000ft to see the N/lights will not go into that again but on the way back we was told to lookout and see for ourself the pollution over the UK when all our m/way lights and towns and city lights were on the time was about midnight and must say you can see all the pollution in our skys manly made up from lights being on and it is very very bad we were told the UK have some of the most pollution in the sky in the whole world and I know that now to be true.
We must do some thing to try and stop that and the only way is to turn lights out or even dim them down that does help but do some thing is a must.
It will our own young ones that we need to worry about when they grow up and have a family
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
#18
I always took it that the ability to turn on a light to be a sign of progress but hey.
I've always been a keen stargazer but to link a sign of civilization by way of the magic of light with worrying about our children's future and to call it pollution is ridiculous. I'm sure all those millions of people living in far flung parts of the world where they have no light but beautiful, clear skies would trade in one street lamp for the dubious ability to see Orion, the Pleiades or Sirius.
Hey why not just shut down the port at night that'll work wonders and I'm sure people will flock in their thousands to witness the heavens (not).
Pollution - lol.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#19
Shuting down the port at night would be a great help in the war against pollution.
I think you need to read up more about air pollution Mr PhilipP
And what you will read is very true not ridiculous.
Guest 661- Registered: 16 Mar 2008
- Posts: 241
#20
Just been on the map as shown in post 12 for our street, a bit bemused by it. We only have three street lamps in the road as it just a little cul-de-sac they are going to turn off all our light's, they have not thought this out at all, two of the lights are either at the top or bottom of steep flights of steps, one flight leading to the houses along the top of the street and the other leading to a steep flight of fourteen steps down to two houses, a little bit on the dangerous side me thinks, in the councils infinite wisdom and forethought they painted the handrails black last year, after years of them being white. how much is it going to cost them in damages if some one falls down these steps.
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