Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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much as i hate giving vic any publicity, his posts get more and more cnfusing,
his latest is indicating if he doesnt get his way with leader then he will be off as an indy again.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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No .We have Asked Mr Farge to stand in Dover next time,if he does not and no one comes forward to stand, then I will.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
gosh
stuck with vic then
lol
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
Yesterday he was the UKIP parliamentary candidate, this morning he was second place behind Nigel Farage, this evening he's long stop behind anyone else who wants to stand.
How can one person's star wane so fast, or is something to do with that photo?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
do try to have more respect for your councillor ray, he will not help you with problems if you are not nice to him.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Good post Mr Newsam ,sometimes my posts are not always clear on what I am saying.We would like to See Mr Farage stand in Dover and have aske him to do that,at this time we do not know if that will happen.
So if that does not happen I would like to see a younger UKIP member go for it.
But if no one comes forward then "YES" again I will do it.
I hope that clears that one up.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Blimey, I've found myself helping to publicise UKIP policy!
Nurse
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,463
Just to return to proper politics rather than the ridiculous oneman egotistical roadshow of VM it would appear that David Cameron was forced to brush aside Tory demands to sack Vince Cable last night after he launched an unprecedented assault on the Prime Minister over immigration.
I personally don't think there is a major problem with immigration other than the govts plans to cut UKBA staff levels further. Cameron wants to restrict immigration further on one hand but takes away the tools to do so with the other.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The Prime Minister knows that if he does not take a clear stand on immigration, he will lose support among the Tories.
He spoke of mass immigration, and knows that it must stop.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The PM also knows that if he does not help the Peoples Port go through, his Big Society thingy is toast.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Looks llike the P..M is toast then lol
he has bigger things to worry about than the peoples port proposal at the moment
he's hanging on to a crumbling government.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i think there will be some sort of deal done that will appease th electorate.
my guess is that it will be sold off with the proviso that some of the profits go into the town and/or district.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It would appear that Cameron can't stop himself as he wades into the fatties,druggies and alkies by claiming alcoholics, drug addicts and the obese did not deserve to get benefits he did not pay his taxes to keep them in the welfare system he is quoted as saying.
But former government drugs tsar Professor David Nutt hit back "Addiction is not something people choose. If they need benefit they should not be denied it," he said.
The comments were a result of the DWP accounts showed 12,800 alcoholics, 9,200 drug addicts and 600 obese people have claimed incapacity benefit for more than a decade.
What amuses me is that he says nowt about family of 12 asylum-seekers that is being put up in a massive house costing taxpayers nearly £1,500 a week.The Ethiopian couple and their ten children are receiving a mouthwatering £1,460 a week in housing benefit alone.
The jobless couple will also be eligible for other handouts such as unemployment and child benefits, which could add up to an additional £1,300 a week
Its a mad mad world.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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yes marek
and we have not yet even touched the surface.
and this govenment like others will stop short of taking the issue full on
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't know why they don't speak about about the immigrant families taking this much out of the benefits system - is it a topic that is still totally taboo ? Should I keep my mouth shut about the abuse of our welfare system - by all sorts of people.
Most people are obese through choice or laziness; is it much different to alkies and druggies - they don't have to drink or inject - not to start with anyway.
O.K. that shows a complete lack of understanding or appreciation of people's individual circumstances and problems, but whatever happened to me during my life, I've never been tempted to drown myself in drink or drugs; sometimes we have to pull our own boot-straps up, not rely on others to do it for us.
I also appreciate that many people do need help and that help should be available to help restore them to a normal life, but some of these people have been obese, junkies or drunks for over 10 years - not much restoration to a normal life there.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Iain Duncan Smith's reforms will help towards this problem. More though needs to be done and to do that we have to get rid of that appalling Human Rights Act.
IDS is cool - I like him.
So, BarryW, let's sweep away all human rights that we have struggled for thousands of years to construct: no support for the poor, the vulnerable, the hungry and the thirsty. Yes, let's allow people to starve, let's expect people to remain where they are in their homeland and risk themselves and their families being butchered or starve rather than make that painful and dangerous decision to move themselves and their children in dangerous transport with strangers who are volatile and demanding money and taking sexual advantage of those who are seperated from their families, only to meet hostility from the people in the place they were seeking "asylum" - a word that means a place of refuge or protection, sanctuary. Let's step over the decimated bodies in the gutter - they were asking for it.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Come on Bern, no one is saying that - even doing away with the Human Rights Act would not create that scenario.
People from Africa don't need o come to Britain; people from Eastern Europe/Asia don't need to come here for sanctuary.
If people are moving out of their homeland because they are being persecuted for any reason, there are many, many countries they travel through, where they could seek sanctuary in any of them.
We all know they travel through these countries to come here because of what we offer them.
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
come off it barryw what if your human rights where trampelled on,you would be the first to moan.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
roger does make a valid point, we have seen the most recent wave of potential migrants move from tunisia to italy making it quite clear that they are not bothered about the new democracy in their country, just want to be better off.
