howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dave has put himself in the limelight today over comments made on immigration.
the subject is of major concern to most people yet rarely discussed because accusations of racism that come into play.
is dave playing to the gallery close to election time or is he actually going to do something about the problem?
interestingly his business secretary is for more or less demanding unlimited imigration for the sake of businesses regardless of the effect on public services.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Is his business secretary per chance a Libdem?
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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This looks like a serious rift today between the Prime Minister and Uncle Vince Cable. Cable, a Libdem stalwart, has said that the PM was electioneering for the Conservatives. Oh dear! I thought that was a very rocky thing to say and it will worry Nick Clegg, Libdem Party Leader, who is very very keen not to rock the political boat, not to rock the Coalition boat...but Vince has gone and dunnit.
Will be interesting to see how this one plays out.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Fibdems are so out of step with the government it's hard to see how much longer this demolition parliament will last.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Oh Dear! Will be interesting to see how this one pans out
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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according to reports today suddenly red ed has reached the conclusion that the coalition will not last the course and is preparing for a possible election. this was before the cable issue.
his advisors are not recommending that he goes on the offensive, rather that he hangs back and then looks fresh and new to the electorate when the row starts.
i don't think that the coalition will crack, people like nick, vince, doug, norman and others rather like being important beyond their wildest dreams and riding around in ministerial cars and will stand up against any revolt from back benchers, council leaders and party members.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well i also think there will be a Gen/Election at the end of the year,and if there is I will be standing again,but this will be the last time..
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i somehow thought that you would turn a thread about the prime minister around vic.
i think you have done more retirements than frank sinatra.
Jan Higgins
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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it is hard to disagree with his point that the suppression of debate on immigraton- THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AMONG VOTERS - feeds extremist parties. Surely the twisted, oppressive fiction that it is racist to be concerned about the issue has died a long overdue death.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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of course our david is electioneering and the lib dems are fighting back on this one
i said it would fall apart
now people are starting to believe me
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Liberal Democrat Business Secretary triggered the biggest coalition rift to date as he accused Mr Cameron of inflaming extremism ahead of local elections next month.In a major speech to party activists yesterday, the Prime Minister said 'the largest influx of people Britain has ever had' had caused 'discomfort and disjointedness' in many communities.
But Mr Cable dismissed the tough stance on immigration as 'very unwise' and claimed Mr Cameron's pledge to reduce the number of migrants to the levels of the 1990s was not government policy. He said: 'The reference to the tens of thousands of immigrants rather than hundreds of thousands is not part of the coalition agreement. It is Tory party policy only.
'I do understand there is an election coming, but talk of mass immigration risks inflaming the extremism to which he and I are both strongly opposed.'
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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a ticking time bomb waiting to explode
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Always vote for Vic Matcham,what you see is what you get.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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many of the reds that lost fairly safe seats put it all down to their stance on immigration.
most were contrite and admitted that they had not listened to the concerns of their constituents.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I bet there is not one area of the country that is happy about their particular area being over-run with foreigners.
I am not talking about their colour, some isolated places think of Londoners as foreign
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I used to respect Vince Cable as a sensible man, now he comes across as a grumpy old man.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I find it amusing how some of you live in hope that the coalition will fall apart, looking for the smallest sign.
It will last 4-5 years, anything less than that would see the LDs committing political suicide.
This does raise an interesting point though...
The two parties must retain their individuality and to do that there must be room for disagreement. The big question is how and what can be disagreed on and on what they must remain united.... There has been some comment on this on ConHome and it has set me thinking about the subject....
I see a topic for a blog coming on, perhaps tonights update. Maybe.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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very few want to see the coalition fall apart barry.
blue fans would expect much the same result if an election was called now, red fans know that their party is still trying to settle itself under a new leader and is not ready to govern.
as for yellow supporters, they do not what they do want.
the main population just wants some stability.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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The Cons and Libs are in a coalition in national governement but competing against each other in the locals so it's natural there'll be some positioning to make a difference betyween the two parties at this time. And a reminder of what to expect more of if the Yes2AV lot get their way.
#14 What you see isn't what you get on the nomination forms for May 5th! What you see is no description, what you get is the local chairman of UKIP, their next parliamentary candidate (he says), and the peddler of their local manifesto (sorry, been a bit quite in stealth mode lately so I thought I'd remind him I haven't gone away
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I was last time and if Mr Farage dos not do it ,like I have asked him to do,then it will be me again.
