howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
vic
you state that you and many other dover people have been members for a long time.
does the fact that buckland hospital has less facilities as each year goes by not tell you that the whole thing is just a public relations exercise and that dover is well down the list of priorities?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I had tomorrow 27th in my diary as I was invited to attend sometime ago
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
Sorry but that is not the case,but we understand how you feel because we feel the same.
As I said before anyone can become a member of a foundation trust , all you need to do is live in the area that the trust covers , there is no them and us ie members and non members , just members who havn't joined yet and those that have, just because people are not yet members dosnt mean that they cant ask questions or attend meetings .
Howard you are quite right about Dover being way down the agenda , a polyclinic is as good as it gets
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry again but that is not true,but is taking longer then it should.
That may be your opinion Vic but I am quite entitled to mine , which is as I posted
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have no more to say at this time thank you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
the fact remains that it is another talking shop similar to the neighbourhood forums, all stage managed by people that have been on courses to teach them how to put the plebs in their place.
the public ask questions and there are earnest looks from the platform that give the impression that they are taking things on board.
then everyone goes home.
the powers that be take nothing away from the meeting and the public that have spoken are happy because they think they have been listened to.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Good night all,time for bed.
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,321
Well all I can say is thank goodness Sue is going to be there, at least she tells us the truth about what has been said.
Sarah P - #27 - totally agree, don't let Matcham bully you
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Cheers Jacquie
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
so here we now have 2 people with completely differing view points.
having watched the past fiasco on buckland hospital with ego's taking over from what is best for Dover.
The trust will be well aware of the divided opinion and im sure use it as a reason to do the minimum they can.
Although one of the posters is well intenioned i would like to hear sarah's balanced view.
It looks like buckland will get the minimum
for me, I hope this is wrong and buckland gets all the facilities that the dover district deserves
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
buckland will get no money and will be sold off for cheap housing,any money will be split between the other 3 hospitals.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i hope you are badly wrong brian but i harbour the same suspicions.
the clever way to do this is to run it down over a long period of time(which has happened), then when sevices are at a bare minimum then sell it off.
no great outcry then.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
Arrangements are being made to hold a Rally to demonstrate that the people of Dover and its many villages need/deserve/want a Hospital to be built as promised.When the details/date are available we need to spread the word to all,young and old because we will all need it some time.
The doom and gloom merchants had better be there as well.
Watch this space.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All I know is that the Hospital will go ahead as planned but a year later then what we all was told.What I have said is no help but that is the way it is.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
reg no doom and gloom here just bear faced facts that buckland hospital has been run down for a number of years.
there are a couple of factors that are in faver of having a big hospital.
1,buisest ferry port in the uk,maybe the world.
2,buisest sea route in the world.
the down side is that the nhs/goverment dont and i mean dont want to spend billions of pounds in dover while they got the other 3 in full operation.
well thats how i see it.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
- Posts: 1,388
My view is that Dover requires a medium size hospital with all the facilities that Buckland once boasted. There are certain very expensive facilities at the main hospitals which cannot be replicated in the smaller ones, together with the top consultants. All the day to day stuff should be done at the local hospitals to save the endless travel and disruption caused by having to use the main hospitals.
What I feel is not factored in when concentrating all the facilities at the main hospitals is the cost to individuals and the general economy of all this travelling and time off work. I suspect that the hospital trusts only consider costs in the narrow sense of those which relate to the health service itself. As a National Health Service, the opportunity is there to view overall costs to the economy as a whole.
For example, I drove Chris to the William Harvey a few days ago for a routine appointment with a consultant. She saw him for literally a couple of minutes, just a "how are you feeling?" job. Then all the way back home again. Pointless, could have been done on the phone or the consultant could hold clinics at the smaller hospitals on a rotating basis.
For our historians, saw this on Ebay the other day:
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A very good post,and the way of puting it over.Mr Connell. Thank you.
