Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#1
So what have they been plotting and planning at Fort Whitfield?
Not for me to precis, but here's what's been did and what's been hid for your perusal.
Try from page 72 onwards
Enjoy.
http://moderngov.dover.gov.uk/documents/g2540/Public%20reports%20pack%2020th-Sep-2016%2018.00%20Scrutiny%20Policy%20and%20Performance%20Committee.pdf?T=10
And before anyone says anything, yes, I have read it all, though I had to look up the acronym CHP (combined heat and power - should have worked that out!)
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1590- Registered: 22 Oct 2015
- Posts: 86
#2
Well done 'cap n',you beat me to the punch.This definitely needed to be in the public domain.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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#3
John, as you well know I'm for TOTAL transparency wherever possible.
It is OUR money council's spend and one should be even more careful when spending other people's money than one's own.
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1590- Registered: 22 Oct 2015
- Posts: 86
#4
The report states that between October 2016 and May 2017 'two rounds of public consultation assumed'.I find this very telling,the 'assumed' part that is.I take it the 'assumption' was that it was to be situated in Whitfield as I don't know anyone locally that has been 'consulted' with regards to the new District Leisure Centres location.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#5
This thread gives me hope for the future left and right working together for a better Dover.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#6
The whole section re: new leisure centre suggests our council have long since decided where it would go and to hell with the cost. Why are the figures regarding our money redacted, perhaps our council "assumes" we don't need to know?
Arte et Marte
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#7
4.4
The current report provides a revised figure with the total cost of the project now estimated at £26.4m. The variation arises from adding more facilities to the corefacility mix, increased parking provision, rise in construction costs due to inflation, aswell as revised costs for land purchase, demolition of the existing centre, Section 106 contributions and capitalisation of internal staff costs.
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#8
For information
Dover Leisure Centre report will be considered at the following meetings:
Cabinet – 20 September 2016, 11.00am
Scrutiny (Policy and Performance) Committee – 20 September 2016, 6.00pm
Cabinet – 21 September 2016, 3.30pm
Council – 21 September 2016, 6.00pm
ALL meetings are open to the public and will be held at Fort Whitfield.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#9
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#10
Decision day tomorrow!
Let's all hope that whatever happens DDC aren't so stupid as to sell the old site restricting its use to that of a Cinema!
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#11
Maybe the site will be sold for Social Housing to match the Gateway flats which were built as Social Housing and now desirable residences.That would please our MP as he stated our young people need homes .Trouble is this is a brown field site
not a green one !
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#12
On another site preople are. Moaning re decisions are made by people who do not live in Dover Actually there are twelve Councillors who live within Dover.Of course the rest of the Council members thirty three all told are involved as its District Money.Living in River whether the Leisure Centre is Dover or Whitfield same must apply for people who live in Temple Ewell.or Lydden
Always been the same ..I'm sure people who live in Aylesham would like a nice Swimming pool i suppose they go to Canterbury.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#13
I think the name is a give away Dover District.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#14
Sue,
Whilst mostly funded by 'District money' there should be a 7 figure contribution from Sports England.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#15
Yes I did realise Captain but DDC still need to provide core funding and There are other schemes on the go and we donot want to sell the family silver.Some people say it will attract more visitors well i sat on endless meetings when the White Cliffs experience was discussed and the Big .Screen .The one good thing that was built is The Water Sports Centre and the Musuem had a face lift
we also had the fountain which is coming to the end of its days.
I wonder how many will turn up to hear you Councillors debate it tonight?
Plenty of key board warriors ..Not like the old days when crowds turned up and there were security chaps on the doors.Councillors had to be sharp in those days .
When River rec was under threat the people of River turned up to listen to the debate .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#16
The fountain came to the end of its day last year Sue, I think DDC missed a trick in not going for the 50 metre pool as the nearest one is in London I believe. Clubs would have come from all over Kent and swimming galas would have been held there. Not that it would have benefited the town as not many people would have gone there beforehand or after their swim.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
- Posts: 440
#17
The swimming pool at the leisure centre costs a fortune to maintain, a 50m one would be worse. There is a reason nobody has opened an Olympic size pool this side of London.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
#18
Sooner or later Ashford or Canterbury will open a 50m pool and the local clubs like Deal Tri (one of the largest in UK) will switch leaving this an expensive white elephant pushed through to distract people from the problems with DTIZ.
Jack of Hearts
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,599
#19
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#20
Good news but I will not hold my breath when you consider the St James area is still waiting for building work to start. How about 2026 being more likely as an opening date.
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