Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
22 November 2010
20:1381221alan,no one asked them to go there,before you start i know they where orded to go there.
22 November 2010
20:1881226So, when did it become ok to verbally abuse an entire nation? This nasty thread has veered from a conversation about fiscal policy to a barrage of contempt for the Irish people. For what it's worth I am offended, for what it's worth it has made meaningless what could have been a discussion rather than a tirade, and for what it's worth I have been unsurprised by the source of most of it. But I uphold your right to freedom of speech even while it is pathetic, childish and offensive.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
22 November 2010
20:3381235bern,intresting point you made there.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
22 November 2010
20:3981236Weird view of the history of Ireland, the UK and the various Irish diaspora over the centuries being displayed on here. If I did not know that you all were not like that I might think some of you hated the Irish and might even be displaying racial prejudice.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
22 November 2010
22:0681239one or two posts made me think that way too.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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22 November 2010
22:1381241True Ross. I suspect that a fair few posters here will not have enjoyed the company and hospitality of our Irish friends but even so should know better.
Sad - it could have been an interesting thread as you say Bern, on fiscal policy, the impact of the Euro and where Ireland's economic future lays but it did take a rather idiotic turn instead.
Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 660
22 November 2010
22:2781242Right here comes my sixpennorth, i admit i haven't read all of the post due to just having got back to the UK, but i have found the Irish both from north and south of the border to be a most welcoming race including when serving over there, the majority were good folks. If we are lending them money there will be string attached we will in the long term gain. As for two world wars just check out the war graves.
beer the food of the gods
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
22 November 2010
22:3881244For a couple of posters this thread has turned into a 'lets bash the Irish thread'. How sad that in this day and age some so called educated people can be so stupid.
On the original point of this thread. Although I understand the reason I do find it strange that we can afford to help Ireland, I thought we were in trouble as well. I never could understand the logic or lack of it in politics.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
22 November 2010
23:0881248jan
the issue is about helping ourselves, we get the money back with interest and keep a good customer happy.
23 November 2010
00:0281251Howard,
The issue is not about helping ourselves. The issue is every time now and in the future if the euro zone (of which we are not members) gets itself into difficulties are we expected to dish out largesse on the scale that we have witnessed today. What happens in the future if two or more euro countries get into difficulties??. Forget all this nonsense that we will get our money back with interest, that in itself is but a minor point. What is any future governments policy if such a situation I have described arises??
Who pays the piper ???
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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23 November 2010
00:5081252Jimmy, a brief analysis of the economic nightmares of almost all western e.u. member states would suggest that it cannot go on like this for long. The thread you have put up here is similar to the one I launched months back when Britain signed to participate in Greece's bailing-out. The figure involved was possibly 13 billion quid, if I remember rightly. This bailing out of Greece's debits, which was only a small part of a much larger figure that the euro zone and the IMF also have to contribute to, is still on-going.
Other western e.u. countries, namely in the Mediterranean, might also be in line for a bailing out, which I warned about then, but was and is common knowledge anyway.
But Ireland is different, the Irish work hard for the Irish economy, and it wasn't Ireland's fault. This is a time when we have to show solidarity!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
24 November 2010
19:2681492the irish government has just announced it's austerity measures.
cuts to the minimum wage, public sector job cuts, rise in vat from 20% to 22%, and a property tax.
i think we can take it as read that there will be a new government early next year, they already have high unemployment and the low paid will be bashed the most with these measures.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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24 November 2010
20:1181501howard,if i remember rightly i think it works out at two and a half billion quid.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 November 2010
08:3881567We're loaning them £7 billion - not to be sniffed at.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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25 November 2010
12:4681614Our loan from the EU was at 2.50% and our loan TO THE iRISH WAS AT 5%, SO NOT ALL BAD NEWS THEN.