The luck of the Irish??
- 22 November 2010 15:4181153Brian, And many good british men died to protect the irish!!
- Brian Dixon
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- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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22 November 2010 15:4381154along with the scots and welch plus other nationals you care to name. - 22 November 2010 15:4781155Woe!! I think us Irish are getting a bit of an unjustified kicking here. We're not all that bad! Not sure we are any more 'flame haired' than anywhere else, in fact I never knew anyone with flame hair...maybe there was Maureen O'Hara of course on de silver screen.
Going back to the battle of the somme and so on, or even as far as the troubles is not really relevent. We could talk in that way about the Germans but it doesnt matter any more in the modern age. Its all to do with the banking system. The Irish Banks did the same thing as the banks here in the UK, but they didnt have the reserves to call on, Ireland being much smaller, when it all went titzup. thats the only difference.
The EU fund will bail them out. The British offer of a loan, and lets not forget its only a loan which will be paid back with interest...is because the Irish economy works as a whole unit, both North and South, much as they do in Rugby. As the north is part of the UK but use the Irish banks you can see how it is all inextricably linked. I would imagine few chatteringg away here would know that. So if HMG dont want part of the UK to fail in shape of Norther Ireland, they dont have much choice.
And of course there is the large daily trading that takes place.
Its in the UK's interest to have a strong EuroZone. if all those countries are thriving, which they will again, they will buy more goods from the UK. This is how David Cameron is thinking as he said so himself the other day.email: dover7@msn.com - 22 November 2010 15:4981156
- 22 November 2010 15:5281157But in WW2 Ireland was neutral although it did not object to its citizens coming to England and joining up. But there was a substantial republican minority which disagreed with Eamonn de Valera's neutrality policy and wanted to support Germany, if I remember my o-level history correctly.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 22 November 2010 16:0081159Paul. Rubbish. One only has to look at St Patricks day in the USA to see that the 'cartoon' Irishman is flame haired.
Typical bloody Irish, deny the bloody obvious and claim the metaphysical.
+ from Wiki:- Ireland has the second highest percentage; as many as 10% of the Irish population has red, auburn, or strawberry blond hair.[10] It is thought that up to 46 percent of the Irish population carries the recessive redhead gene.
No doubt South of the Border will be sorted out by the excellent (sic) Gerry Adams who is apparently standing down there (after he has had his finishing payment from the Palace of Westminster which he has never attended!)
With his 6 O levels he at least is the intellectual equivalent of BIFFO! - 22 November 2010 16:1681164Oh! that sounds a bit nasty, but there we are...email: dover7@msn.com
- 22 November 2010 16:1981165Errrrr. Which bit nasty? First part purely factual, second part Biffo V non-member of IRA? Your problem is?????????????????
- 22 November 2010 16:3681166Apart from which the bog trotters next door seem to be split into two tribes.
There's the 'tick paddy and there's the occasional intellectual Yeats, Behan, Beckett etc etc (but not for many people - the etc. that is!)
Personally I've never found anything spectacular in Irish verse apart from the fact that they were capable of writing something close to approximating poetry.
Much the same goes for Wales where allegedly they are semi articulate and 'love' language yet the best they have is Dylan Thomas> - 22 November 2010 16:4181167Brian,
This post is in danger of being high jacked, it is not about the ethnicity of the british army. It is about the supposed need to bail out Ireland with our money. I have to say in all honesty that this is my own personal opinion, no one has to agree with me, that is there right. - 22 November 2010 16:5581169Jimmy, bailing out the Irish certainly goes against the grain.
After all they are the ones who gave up their right to run their own economy by joining the Euro and they have been living the high life on EU dosh. This whole mess would also not be nearly so bad if they had not jumped on the big spending bandwagon as well.
But - it would be self-defeating not to provide the loan they currently need and help out, we would be damaged economically by their collapse.
However, that said it will only be a sticking plaster unless they make more fundamental reforms for the long term. The break up of the Euro would be a start. - 22 November 2010 16:5881170Paul,
The second paragrah of your post is the point I am trying to put across. Why all of a sudden do we have a duty to bail Ireland out?? At a time when we are being treated by our government, like a body being chucked into a freezer, all systems shut down. And yet when a member of the Euro group of countries gets into trouble for putting there money on the wrong horse, we feel this overwhelming desire to extend our ill affordable tax money to correct there misjudgement.
This is not a dig at the irish on a personal level as I am not in a position to make such a judgement.
P.S.
I enjoyed Maureen O Hara in the "Quiet Man"
- 22 November 2010 16:5981171Jimmy, not sure what you are on about. We are talking about a nation............oh. excuse me. the Guiness cort - u ...........................
- 22 November 2010 17:1581174bob
the welsh do not write much, they prefer to sing.
you seem to have forgotten oscar wilde in your assessment of irish culture. - 22 November 2010 17:2581176Howard,
Praise be to the lord that the welsh don't sing that often!!
- 22 November 2010 17:5881182And Brian Many a Good English man died in Northern Ireland so they could live safe over the Border the only difference was we wore a uniform.
- Brian Dixon
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22 November 2010 18:0081183only ehen they are beating at rugger. 
- 22 November 2010 19:4981212The British loans to Ireland are in order, they should go ahead. Nothing to do with e.u., which is circumstantial, but with the fact that Ireland was caught in a recession and needs this economic help.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
Rule Britannia!
Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 22 November 2010 19:5381215alex
agree with you there, incidentally the trade gap in our favour with ireland is!! wait for it.
7 billion quid.
some coincidence. - 22 November 2010 19:5481216Alexander,
Why don't you go for a nice snooze??
