howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 October 2010
18:5576759#1
i would imagine that everyone has heard by now about the 9 foot high stag that was shot dead by a trophy hunter today.
the giant creature had been the subject of wildlife photography and the subject of visits by people who just wanted to see him.
the killing, by a trophy hunter, was perfectly legal as he had a hunting licence.
most fellow hunters are shocked by the incident as the stag was in the mating season, his genes were likely to continue producing high class progeny.
should we allow people the privilege of paying large sums of money to slaughter animals owned by nobody just so that someone can have a trophy on their mantlepiece?
Brian Dixon
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26 October 2010
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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26 October 2010
19:0376763#3
Shame to hear that this morning, I know that culls have to be made and this is probably an additional way of bringing in more much needed cash. But the Exmoor Emperor should have been exempt from hunting, I wonder if the trophy hunter was from foreign fields
The days of my ancestors collecting hunting trophies are long gone, you cannot beat a great photograph of a lone stag upon the moor, anyway taxidermists are few and far between nowadays.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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26 October 2010
19:0576764#4
have heard the hunter was from the south east england.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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26 October 2010
19:1876773#5
Was not me, I do shoot, but only a few brace on the Glorious Twelfth, some rabbit, pigeon and the odd poacher or two
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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26 October 2010
19:1876774#6
Now lets have some good news, like the hunter`s got a contract on his head. Rot in hell you B.....d, along with Roy Rogers.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
26 October 2010
19:4776775#7
Set of Antlers For Sale
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 October 2010
20:5976785#8
I'm with you on that one Colin
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 October 2010
22:0776798#9
the prehistoric country set win again.
in darkest africa they are ahead of us, the mountain gorillas of rwanda are now protected.
it was explained to the poachers that killing a primate in order to make an ashtray out of its claw was bad business.
nowadays the former poachers are employed as tourist guides in a never ending occupation because the gorillas will always be there and us westerners will always pay good money to observe them.
not much different to the "monarch of the glen" topped today.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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26 October 2010
22:0976800#10
It has made me so mad just reading this.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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26 October 2010
22:5376804#11
Can't see what all the fuss is about.
About 30,000 deer are legally shot every year, some for food, some to keep numbers down and stop the herd starving, some as pest control and some older or injured ones to keep the herd healthy. This one had led a good life, had all the women he wanted and was getting past his prime.
It's only getting in the news because the locals claimed he was the largest in the UK when there are probably many others just as large in Scotland, and they have lost a tourist attraction. The stuff about he shouldn't have been shot in the rutting season is rubbish, the legal shooting season covers the rut and many stags have a long and painful death due to injuries they get as part of their natural lifestyle at this time.
I'll just get my tin hat now and retire to the bunker while I wait for the flak.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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26 October 2010
23:2076808#12
I haven`t seen the actual news at all, just going on what Howard posted. If it was indeed for a trophy only, and it sounds to me like it was with an apparently well known individual involved, I stand firm on what I said above. Perhaps the hunter now feels he`s reached manhood, and can brag how he shot a defenceless animal for sport(?). Don`t talk to me about a god, there`s plenty of humans who need culling.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
06:0276814#13
colin,i understand where you are coming from,but certain culls and hunting skills are needed to control wildlife to stop us humans being over run.things like the stag can be consumed by humans.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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27 October 2010
08:2176818#14
This is both a good and bad story all at the same time, and its very hard to get to the actual facts as all our emotions get carried away.
It is horrible to think that the country's largest animal was just shot for amusement. Some news stories say that a licensed hunter paid for the privilege of the kill and trophy, and some others say it was part of a cull.
Yes indeed there are culls but this particular incident seems to have a fishy smell about it, in other words it stinks, the story is now being dressed up in the 'cull' spin because of the outrage and uproar.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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27 October 2010
12:5776844#15
Brian, I know the normal culls happen, but there`s certain situation`s where it`s not the thing to do.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
13:0276846#16
why is the identity of the marksman being kept a secret if everything was above board?
i wonder also, if there so many deer why are our butchers shops not inundated with venison.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
13:2776852#17
I was working in Richmond Park when they were going a cull of the Dear it is very upseting to see them being killed off there is alot of room in that park but also they could move them on there would be a big cost to that ,but just to kill them to keep the numbers down can not be right.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
13:4676855#18
the only deer i have ever seen have been in greenwich park, i don't see the cost as prohibitive in moving surplus ones to a new location that does not have any.
27 October 2010
14:4176864#19
Hunting for pleasure is totally wrong, be it with gun or hounds. The moronic need to kill for pleasure sets these people outside of decent society. How can it be 'sport' when they are hiding with a gun. How can it be sport when the adversary has no idea that they are involved, and doesn't stand a teapot in Hells chance? I dont call that hunting either, I call it creeping. A sport for creeps, by creeps. Disgusting.
And this talk about a necessary cull!! WTF! Humans are the most prolific and damaging species on the planet, maybe we should start culling in the right place - scumbag lowlife with guns! Who are we to say that our wildlife has no right to life??
Jan Higgins
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27 October 2010
16:3576901#20
Hunting is an emotive subject as Lesley has just demonstrated.
Those of us who are meat eaters might also enjoy the taste of pheasant, rabbit, partridge etc these are all hunted in some form or another so I disagree with Lesley. Chasing and hunting animals when they are not for food is another matter.
Culling of some animals IS needed to keep herds healthy and ensure there is enough food for them, not pleasant but needed.
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