Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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The fact that I cannot have purple bags in place of wheelie bins because I consider that they are an eyesore and lower the tone highlights the zealotry behind this scheme.
Another recent thread talks about the health implications of closing public toilets (the seafront, Buckland bridge for example) and it appears that personal health is sidelined for measures to blindly follow green ideas.
Rather like those who reckon wind turbines are beautiful there are those who consider wheelie bins in the same light.
Something is seriously wrong here on many different levels.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The fact that anyone considers them an eye-sore is not a valid reason not to have them Philip, only the fact of whether your front garden is big enough and even then that is not a real consideration.
My personal view is that they are horrible looking things and make everywhere look awful - a blot on anyone's landscape, but that is in the main, because people put them out on the pavement (all the time) and overfill them - usually by filling up other people's.
£40 to have your green-waste taken away (up to 6 bags at a time) for a whole year, is, in my opinion, good value.
Roger
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Roger will the option be there to take green waste to the tip without incurring a cost ?
Audere est facere.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Yes Martin - you don't have to sign-up to the green-waste collection if you don't want to and I have been assured that KCC are not going to charge to take any sort of waste to the Whitfield site (or any other one in the District) as far as I know.
Roger
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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That's good news, thank you Roger.
Audere est facere.
So it willonly be those who cannot get to the tip - those with mobility or cost issues - who will have to pay?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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A pleasure Martin.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have been told that a payment will be put in place even if you take it up yourself.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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£40 a year for 6 bags a fortnight (assuming that it stays at the same frequency as now) might be good value if you have 6 bags for every collection but most won't have the full amount every time so it won't be economical. When the service was first brought in we were told it would be subsidised by being able to buy back composted green waste as a soil improver but that doesn't seem to have happened.
I predict there will be such a low takeup that the service will be stopped within the year.
http://www.dover.gov.uk/waste__recycling/new_garden_waste_service.aspxJan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
I will not be paying £40 for around six of the green bags a year which is all we usually use.
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Guest 736- Registered: 5 Jan 2012
- Posts: 118
Lets hope when they DO eventually clear them that they don't go through them to see whether there is any information on who they belonged to by retracing things which have names and addresses on!!!
Dhooa!
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
Well if they do I hope they wear gloves, a not very close inspection reveals a couple of well filled disposable nappies.
Still, by now the foxes might have run off with them!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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The council reckon 8000 houses will take the green recycling income £320,000 plus an additional £100,000 saving on the rewritten contract because of the people who dont recycle the green waste.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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I think that figure of 8,000 is overly optimistic. I don't know the figure for total number of households in the district but guess it's around 35,000 so that's hoping around 1 in 4 will be paying.
28% of those households don't have a green waste collection at present so they'll have to be persuaded to pay for something they've never had.
We have a green waste collection and I estimate something like 1 in 10 regularly put bags out, often no more than 1 or 2 bags per house and then not every collection.
I'm tempted to ask was that figure the result of any surveys or is it wishful thinking plucked out of thin air?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Who told you that Vic ? I have been advised that there is no expectation that there will be any charge.
Roger
Guest 665- Registered: 24 Mar 2008
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If charging is the only way to go, is it not possible to charge per use. I would like to use the service but will not need to use it very much, certainly not £40 per year's worth. Surely there must be some middle ground to be had?
Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
I have suggested to my neighbour that we share. We both have big gardens and both of us usually put a couple of bags each out in the gardening season. I don't know how that would work out. I suppose that one of us would have to buy the licence.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
Action! The bags and detritus have been cleared.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
good to here that terry.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Terry
I had an email reply at 11.15 from waste services yesterday, to mine earlier in the day, to say they were going to visit (yesterday); they obviously did and felt it was urgent/bad enough and cleared it straight away.
Glad it worked Terry and so quickly too. They were going to check in the bags to see if there were any contact details. Hope they find some and prosecute.
Despite what people think of the system, they cannot just fly-tip their waste.
Well done waste-services.
Roger
