Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
Hence this scene at 06.30 this morning. Bags dumped on the verge of the path between Widred and DeBurgh.
I'll not waste my time on the phone this morning in a queue. I'm sure one of Roger Walton's staff read the Forum.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
It does look disgraceful Terry I agree, but doesn't it show that people are not using the wheelie bins and other recycling containers as they ought to ?
I'm happy to send that photo and its location to waste services.
If they find any personal contact details of who dumped it, they'll be issued with fines.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
I don't use them as they are not convenient. My wheelies are just left out front hoping someone desperate might pinch them.... If I could get them into the car I would dump them back on the Council's doorstep in the way they were dumped on mine.
If they stop collecting my black bags then it will be more convenient for me to take the black bags to the tip every two weeks than mess around with those wheelies.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
What is not convenient about putting sorted rubbish in the seperate bins the system is not exactly taxing to the brain.
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Unless the people collecting the rubbish leave half of it in the bin meaning there is half of the room for the next lot, meaning there is a backlog caused by their own inefficiency that won't be collected because they won't take the black bags................
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
Far to much flaffing about Jan.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
As you wish Roger, it is a favourite place.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It may well be people not using the system properly, but two things about that:
1 - systems need to be clear to all, and LAs always have to aim for the lowest common denominator when creating workable systems
2 - perhaps the collectors did to those people what they did to us: failed to empty the wheelie properly leaving it half full, and thereby create a backlog that they won't collect because it is more than the wheelie bin will take and they won't take black bags........
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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BarryW - you can write to DDC and ask for your wheelie bins to be collected and they should offer you the alternative (you can argue that as you are a single person, you won't create that much waste for two wheelie bins); if you wish to, you can take all your waste and recycling materials to the recycling site at Whitfield.
I can if you wish, write on your behalf - I am your Councillor, after all.
People do need to be encouraged to recycle more though and at the end of the day, this initiative is designed to do just that.
Roger
Totally support that Roger - this is a well intentioned and appropriate measure that has sadly been poorly rolled out.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Letter sent.
Sadly, some people will never recycle, but those who dump their rubbish must be prosecuted; if fines are the only way to convince some people, so be it - they'll have to learn the hard way.
Roger
I couldn't agree more!
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
Me too.
Those that refuse to recycle are lazy or is that thick, two separate bins indoors to empty into the appropriate wheelie, simple. Maybe they should be made to live next to a land fill site as that is what they could be inflicting on future generations.
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Guest 717- Registered: 16 Jun 2011
- Posts: 468
A colleague of mine lives is a flat, he was not given any bins, nor was the block given a communal one. His black bin bags are not being collected but the bins in the street are. He has spOken to the Council and nothing has changed. How frustrating.
As for my estate my bins were dumped on my doorstep last week. No information on how to use them and the 'inside' bin missing. So I looked up the rules and collection times on the Internet. All bins to be collected on Friday. As I come back from dog walk on Thursday morning I see the bin men collecting (our old bin day). Again...how frustrating!
Keeps politics to myself
Indeed - a well intentioned but seriously poorly planned project.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
We were assessed as not suitable for wheelie bins because of access so have the purple bags and boxes instead.
This is the sum total of information put out by DDC in print or on their website as to how the scheme works if you don't use wheelie bins -
"Alternative collection methods will be used for homes which cannot have wheeled bins."
I've pointed this out to my DDC councillor and he has brought it up at meetings but still no action. It's really no surprise that people don't use the scheme properly if they don't have the information.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i would be delighted to have purple bags in fact any colour they choose, it would mean the end of this charade i am having with the bins i have that are now taking root.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
- Posts: 1,610
With plans underway to charge an annual fee for collecting 'green' waste and to impose a charge for using the dump it will only get worse. Far too many homes have not had purple bags delivered (and there is talk of them being limited to two a week) and the bin delivery is haphazard at best.
One question to ask; if the waste is being sorted by the householders how much return is being made on recycled paper, plastic, glass and tin?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
The proposed charge for green waste is outrageous and attempts have been made to defend it in terms of "encouraging recycling". D'uh! This whole waste/rubbish collection project has been rather badly handled, truth be told, and far from there being improvements there is a trail of confusion and waste in its wake. The intention was laudable (probably......) but the outcome is a bit of a farce. Did anyone do proper risk assessments regarding potential outcomes and mitigations?
Ok, I sound like a management geek, I accept that........
