Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#1
....in Canterbury.
An employer hired 7 people 'off the dole' to do telesales. He was going to pay them a basic £100 per week, not enough for them to lose any benefits but they had an opportunity to earn £400 per week with commission.
None of them turned up for work, though one did about 3 hours late due to 'sleeping late'.
All had weak and virtually non-existent excuses and they are now carrying on living the life of Riley with their chosen career on benefits.
There is only one answer to these parasites.
There must be consequences. No-one should be allowed to live that way.
Every penny of benefit they receive should be immediately withdrawn. If that means they get thrown out of their homes and die starving on the street then so be it.
Nobody should expect to be able to get away with their lifestyle and this is the only way to deal with this problem. Only when there are such consequences will people like these morons be forced to get off their fat lazy behinds.
We are being taken for mugs by these 'people' and this must stop.
Here is the full story - it did feature on local tv news as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135447/What-shower-Business-tries-recruit-seven-jobless-people--NONE-turned-RAINED.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#2
telesales is only for certain people, i am one that would be useless at it so would end up doing 40 hours a week for £.100.
so much for the minimum wage.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#3
It is good to hear that one can earn £100/week no questions asked while on benefits.
These seven must have wondrous interview skills too. I'll bet the employer is irked to loose out on having them on his tele-sales team.
Such encouragement as you do give Barry is sure to have it's effect:if you are not early don't bother...you'll only be scoffed at.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#4
While I was at the Job Club I did see a few that never attended and a couple that would turn up an hour after the sessions had finished. I also saw many, many more who were there when the doors opened, went through all the papers, spent a lot of time working on CV's and sending out dozens (in some cases hundreds) of speculative letters to potential employers.
I also saw people being discouraged from jobs because they did not "fit the criteria" for the Job Club to get paid and others forbidden to work on business plans because they just count as a cost to the Job Club and there is no back to work payment for them.
Despite whatever a scapegoat hunting rag like The Mail might like you to believe, there are systems whereby those that are offered a job, accept it and then fail to turn up can have their benefits stopped. If that has not been done in these cases then either their local office is at fault or their reasons were not as spurious as the press would have you believe.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
#5
"a scapegoat hunting rag like The Mail". I love that.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#6
this bloke has been very clever in alerting all the national and local press.
the mail, sun and metro have gone big on it, no doubt there are others,
the kent online website has been inundated with posts on the topic and he hasn't paid a bean for the massive publicity for his company.
won't need any telesales staff now, assuming he ever intended to hire any.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#7
Can we really describe telesales as a real job? Remember these telesales people are the ones who ring you up while you're preparing tea trying to sell you solar panels and other useless financial services.
Given the option I think staying on the dole is preferable.
It has to be said that this news was also covered in other newspapers and was covered by the goats at the BBC.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#8
BarryW
I am not defending them and I have said many time's, that the Benefit situation is in a mess and should be dealt with.
However "letting them die starving on the streets" is nothing less than I would expect from you. Also you cannot condemn others on other threads for "innocent until proven guilty" when you do not know all the facts as to why some of these did not turn up.
And they are not on their own.
Your words.
"There is only one answer to these parasites"
"Nobody should expect to be able to get away with their lifestyle and this is the only way to deal with this problem"
"We are being taken for mugs by these 'people' and this must stop"
All of these statements could be used against people, illegally defrauding the Taxman, for much larger amounts.
You are not as venomous towards these people Barryw.
Why is that?
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
Because they are what I said they are and it is intolerable that we have to allowed them to live this way.
We have to shake such people out of their good-for-nothing ways and you have to get tough to do that. We cannot go on like this it is not good for them and not good for the rest of us. Of course they will not actually die of starvation, they will be forced to take a job, any job and that what we need them to do.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#10
Yes all agreed BarryW.
Now what about the other's, mentioned in my post?
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#11
Barry it sounds as if you could do with another portion of liver and bacon.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
#12
Is that the one laced with a powerful sedative? Did I say that out loud?
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#13
Served raw....no napkin....photogragh..avatar..
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#14
I bet you if this man offered a basic £300 a week he would have been killed in the rush.
This mixing of basic wage at this level and commission is only circumnavigating the minimum wage.
I strongly believe in benefit reform but this business man just doesn't smell right I would love to see the exact package he offered
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#15
if he actually was offering jobs too, the whole thing stinks of a publicity scam.
he doesn't appear to have mentioned which jobcentre they came from either.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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#16
"Initially, some refused to answer their phones when they recognised the number calling them."
I just don't understand it! As Mr Cooper was obviously with them to see them ignore the recognisable number, he could have given them a lift into work.
If he had done this, they would not have had to worry about train fares or the rain.
Seems to me he is just a bit lazy. Poor management approach.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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#17
gary c nice try to get barryw to answer your question
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#18
Publicity stunt pure and simple.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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#19
On this one I agree with you Philip
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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#20
Indeed Ross but it's a lesson to us all to look behind each and every headline and news report and try to determine the real story. On this occasion it caused the tory faithful to choke on their cornflakes just as Barry did along with millions of others. Dig a little deeper into this and other stories and there is an agenda or cause behind the news which the more gullible fall for.
There are hundreds of these every day in print, on the airwaves and on the box.
Media management pays very well and is an art form.
Remember this every time you read a story about disaster which might befall Mankind which is fodder for many newspapers. Especially watch out for climate related stories (you knew I'd say that didn't you?) and look behind the story and inequitably they will be totally untrue but serve the interests of those who profit from the scam. Melting sea ice? Polar bears dying? Earth warming? Alternative energy will save us all? - All total and utter bovine excrement but most people (including many on this forum) fall for it every time.
We're not as clever as we think are we? We can all be manipulated into believing anything.