howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i doubt whether it was anything to do with pub fuelled violence, just sounds to me like some idiots fancy forming a gang.
if they were calm enough to remember to cover their faces properly i woud think that they were sober.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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true howard
scarves over faces
hoodies to
and all dark clothes
in badly lit dover
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Three words to describe them, brainless cowardly thugs
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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without wishing to change the main subject of the thread keith raises another issue with his use of "badly lit dover".
all over the country councils have been darkening streets using the get outs of cutting down on light pollution and trotting out cliches about carbon footprints.
we all know it is about saving money with scant regard to the safety of us citizens.
in the last couple of weeks we have had nasty incidents in or close to the town centre, any less lighting would give encouragement to the criminal element.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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can't disagree howard
but at the moment i would like the police to find these 3 thugs
and hope i don't find them first
they acted cowardly
thugs
shit**
and stewart just warn your boy on this incident
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Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Keith I've heard of another incident today. The brother of a girl at the top of our road was walking home past The Bull in London Road when three lads jumped him and beat him up for no reason. He managed to get to his sisters house and collapsed. He was rushed to hospital but apparently as a result of the kicking he got he now has amnesia and can't remember now what happened. Luckily he told his sister before he passed out.
You know what? All this is making me fearful not only for my family but for everyone - it seems no-one is safe these days.
I hope your son is ok now, give him a hug from me xx
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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seems some of these incidents may be connected
was also a problem at cherry tree.
same 3?
my boy is well over it
and in contact a lot more
i would love to meet these thugs
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sounds like the same thugs are running amok, the evidence seems to point to it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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as i say for the three thugs sake i hope i never find out who they are
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Any comment from the police? I thought the point of PCSOs was to collect local intel.......
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the police did take a report from my boy
and his injuries have been photographed
apart from that i have no more knowledge of developements
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I am sorry for all the innocent young lads that happen to go out in a group of three, we will all have our doubts about them thinking they may be the thugs.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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not me jan
but those that go around holding big planks of wood
scarves to hide faces
hoodies
and beat up innocent youngsters
yes i dont have time for them and hope one day to meet them
you can im sure understand my frustration
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I just thought, Keith - that wasn't a crack at you when I asked about PCSOs, sorry if I caused unintentional offence. It was mainly a crack at police if I am honest. I forgot you were PCSO, sorry.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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pcso's do a job in my view but residents get frustrated with the lack of powers they have.
a lady in clarendon street lives opposite a house that has frequent visitors at all times of day and night, nobody is let in but something is handed over each time.
she has mentioned this to our pcso but he insists that he needs proof of naughtiness.
Isn't that the job of the police? You, know, gathering evidence, watching people, old fashioned things that lead to nicking people.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not really bern,they are very different nowadays always inseperable from their cloistered cars.
it is now down to community and pcso coves to ride a bicycle blow a whistle and shout "stop thief".
my neck of the woods is no different to anywhere else we all know who the dealers are.
Won't bore you with it at length again, but it took the coppers more than 2 years to pick up a grubby little dealer who operated in the open within a spit of primary and grammar schools, and less than 2 minutes walk from the copshop. This despite many many people supplying them with times, names, car registrations, descriptions, addresses and even calling them when the drops were being made, on the pavement in broad daylight outside our houses. And then they screwed up the arrest - an arrest that could have been made by a bunch of 10 year olds playing cops and robbers.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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A good PCSO passes any information to the police it is then up to the police whether they act or sit on the information until the time is right.
Keith, I was thinking of during the day when the three thugs would possibly look like any other lads who just happen to wear hoods. Yes I do understand your frustration, you want to beat the hell out of them but I know you are too sensible so would not do that.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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This is shocking news! Sorry to hear that Keith, and sincerely hope that your lad and Jacqui's neighbour both will be better.
To me this looks as though public lynching has been praised in public and some young people have decided to enact it here in the UK. Shocking! Nothing to be proud of.