Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 December 2010
10:0386822But they have a mum and agood one ,who comes home at night and they know that. The rest of your post I disagree with.
Keith Sansum1
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30 December 2010
10:0886823vic
like mr precious says i can take you to many (so called)mums who definatly lack the ability to be a parent.
this post was not about this.
it was about age.
looks like most posters don;t have a problem wiith age
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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30 December 2010
10:4286826What a funny world we live in.
Elton won over 1million from the Sun because they accused him of being Gay.
Now he's causing a storm and probably making money from the story, by wanting to be a gay father at 62.
Any child brought into this world, that is going to be cared for, which I am sure his will be, can't be a bad thing. Life is precious.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 December 2010
12:1186833You are right Keith, most posters don't give a monkeys about how old Elton is. Or any other fathers, for that matter. But if you thought age was the only issue we were going to debate on this thread, then you were being (perhaps deliberately?) a little naive.
Parenting is all about responsibilities, not rights, in the sense that nobody has an absolute right to have children; yet those who choose to, and are able to, have an absolute responsibility to their offspring to be good parents. Elton and David have chosen to do so, through the medium of money, (it being biologically impossible without the Californian rent-a-womb scheme) and they now take on that responsibility. In their favour is their stable relationship, certainly far more stable than most showbiz marriages. The world will watch the next 20 years of this family's life with fascination and there will be times when they may wish it had all been kept secret. But the deed is done, and we should all, whether we approve or disapprove of gay parenting, wish them all the best, for the sake of the child. They will need it - not everyone is as broadminded as we are on this forum.
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Jan Higgins
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30 December 2010
15:2186840One person on this thread has shown he is rather narrow minded.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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30 December 2010
15:4386841peter
i was a ittle niave realy was just looking at th age issue
but that's because i didnt think of other peoples bias's
but then thats me, looking at the good in all.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 December 2010
15:5786844Many people have firm principles derived from a strong Christian upbringing. That does not mean they are bad, just different, Keith. Their views should also be respected. We are all biased in one way or another.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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30 December 2010
16:0186845Peter
please don't start me on the christian stuff, be here all day on that one lol
no point in my posting did i say anyone was bad.
biass yes, and your right who decides who's good/bad anyway?
anyone told barryw that lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 December 2010
16:0686847quite a selection of views on this subject, basically that is what good debate is all about.
i bet you didn't expect 48 replies when you started the thread keith?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 December 2010
16:1086848And all that without getting into politics too! Guinness Book of Records, here we come. Until you mentioned BarryW of course Keith.....
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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30 December 2010
16:1186849no howard i didn't, and i realy did just look at the age issue.
strange how people look at a thread and it changes so much, and others look at a thread differently, good for debate though
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 December 2010
16:1686851Yes a good debate, nice one Keith. If you can manage another 50-poster without politics rearing its ugly head I will stand you and BarryW a pint.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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30 December 2010
16:2286853theres nowt wrong with a bit of politics
and those that don't wanna read it don't have to
(you will recall paulw also said this)
i have made it clear when starting off postings that mine contain
politics or football
so those not interested don't have to read it.
i try to accomodate everyone
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