Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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barryw
to be fair, your comments from time to time
that posters dont understand, or such like comments may well go some way to stop people posting or even become more negative, so not sure you should be the to be critical of others
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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a bit heavy handed there barry, premises in deal in general are better presented than in dover.
i doubt that anyone would disagree with that point though you mention some notable exceptions, surely any advice dispensed should include stressing the importance of presentation to the public.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I was referring to the sport of knocking Dover businesses Keith - nothing to do with understanding, do read what is said instead of making up your own version yet again.
Howard - I am sure everyone in business owner knows the importance of presentation.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw;
you will find(presuming you read your own postings) that you often tell people they dont understand if they dont agree with your viewpoint
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Barry
Can I suggest that you take some of your own advice? You instructed Keith to 'read what is said instead of making up your own version yet again' but managed to do just that yourself.
Constructive dialogue is usually the best way forward so, with the benefit of all your expertise have you any suggestions for turning Dover into an attractive tourist and shopping destination as Deal is becoming?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith, and you keep on whinging like a big girls blouse - all to our own...
Oh really Mark, I think not. As for you question, lots, many ideas have come forward that I support from the cable car to the marina scheme and associated regeneration but the resources to get things done is the problem. The PPT if successful should provide the seedcorn investment needed so Dover can finally take its own future more into it own hands.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw
i have tried to refrain from judging you,
but your name calling on myself and mark does you no justice at all.
Although i always respect peoples right to post, many don't post, or reply to owt you post because of your continued attacks and gripes just because the poster may not agree with you.
whilst your probably happy with that, and in your mind they are all left wing loony socialists, if you look a little closer, you will find some of your more right wing friends wont reply either fed up with your continued lack of seeing both sides, or even having a belief that everyone has differing views.
still thats the barryw we know i suppse
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Barry
do we have to wait for PPT and all the other big schemes before anything will change? The flags that David H encouraged in Castle Street look good and I assume the flowers are a Castle Street residents/business venture all helping make it look distinctive, welcoming and cared for. Not massive investments but a community effort to make a difference - and it does. Imagine the same in Market Square ......
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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If the PPT is successful, I cannot see any changes happening for the good of Dover/Deal for many years or ever. They will get the same scraps thrown at them that have been thrown at them for many years.
The only difference will be that DHB does not have to come up with any excuses because of trust rules, the PPT would.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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More whinging Keith from you - no name calling from me towards posters, critisism of your whinging and gripes yes...
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,885
I think it is time some on this thread grew up and stop making personal remarks about other posters just because they do not agree with posts
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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yes things have got a bit personal, possibly the hot weather doesn;t help.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There are so many things that could and should be done to help Dover move forward and I have said so many times.
I started them at Dover Chamber of Commerce, but was cut short so could not complete them.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, has been done to follow any of this up - no help for the Town and no help for the businesses; in fact, as far as I am aware, no new members for the Chamber of Commerce either and a complete balls of the market even though the Chief Exec of the Dover Chamber, at a Mayor's business meeting early in the year, said it was to be revampled in May.
I have given a Board member of DCOC information on how the Market can be transformed - I really hope they take this up.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I'd like to put to an end the name calling
from
Marek the Clown...oops
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
roger,the saterday market has proved to be a red herring hasnt it.i remember a few years ago [quite a few actuly] there was an indoor market where the museam is now open 6 days week and well used market it was to.since its colsure when it made way for the so called white elephant [white cliffs experiance],we have had a number of outdoor markets at various parts of dover,jewsons yard [pre jewsons] dikie dirts wharehouse [the empty building next to the tax office] and now in the market square.all though the the markets had some publisty they went boobs up within 6 weeks of opening,this i beliuve is due to apathy of the local town people,the coc and other factors.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Roger - your knowledge in post #93 is out of date and some facts are wrong.
I am not going into details on this but we have made a lot of changes even within the last couple of months.
Incidentally - I agree the market is not working well and is a problem that must be resolved in some way.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not working well?
the market is a non event now, just the fruit and veg stall a fast food van and one or two stoical traders.
all it does now is make the market square area look untidy, best to give up on it.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That may be the way to go Howard. We will see.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Why not open the market to Boot fairers? They always attract people looking for a bargain. £10 a pitch.
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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doubt that would work, the nearest one at folkestone only had about 8 pitches last time i went.
i think there are now well established ones that people stick to.