Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The only person I believe and back in this thread is Neil. He talks sense and in a way we can all understand - thank you Neil.
Alexander your "out of context" quotes are getting a bit desperate now!
Keith - can you give up referring to the present government as "cobbled together" please. It's very annoying, not for political reasons but because it's like an old joke - funny the first time you hear it but after that it's just tiresome, boring and (may I say) silly.
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Ditto
Ditto
and
Ditto
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jacqui,
while I do not agree with everything Keith states, he has a right to post his views on the Forum.
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Careful Alex - you're beginning to sound like him!
Paul -
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jacqui, word is going around that there were more stall-keepers and crowd-control guards at Pencester than there were visitors.
Didn't seem much of a community turnout.
Jan Higgins
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Keith Sansum1
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Jacqui
I won't mention the cobbled together govt is ones holding everything up, and a little sad that my views amongst many others have info, part support and want the same in the main, TO wrestle control from the harbour board.
neil like many has given viewpoints and as i ponted out to another supporter of the peoples port(john heron) and he agrees, its a one step at a time thing.
if we believe in achieve ing the first aim, then the govt(there jacqui) shouls gets its arse in gear and decide one way or other(and no u turns)
on the forum jacqui we are lucky enough to have wide ranging views but on this first part of thre port sell off by the govt, most forumites are united.
which i have been consistent in supporting that move to stop the sell off
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
your information on turn out is incorrect, the queue to sign the charter was consistently long the time i was there.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I went to the WHPS stall for 1/2 hour and there was a very large number of people mingling around, so I agree with Howard..
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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we have to remember alexander thinks he's a rival to the peoples port
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Alexander being awkward for the sake of being awkward just to wind people up.... ??
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Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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I consider myself relatively literate and articulate, but the only people making any sense at all in a coherent and structured manner are Gary Cox and my former schoolmate Neil Wiggins. The rest is just white noise and burbles that add very little to this important topic.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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When coming from a DPPT supporter, hardly an informative comment, Andrew!
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry Alexander - I am neither for or against DPPT.
However what Neil is saying is making sense, what you are saying isn't......
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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I totally concur with you Paul. But I must admit that I agree with both you and Alex re the revival of Dover Marine Station.
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Well done Richard. I've been trying hard to explain to the DfT the reasons to re-establish the Marine train station.
If there were an oil crisis, Dover Port could find itself closed down for a while, or if oil went up permanently in price in the future, it could divert traffic to other ports. In particular freight traffic, as rail would become the obvious alternative.
Let's hope Gov. accepts also this part of my representation.
To place all the future strategy on sole road traffic for transport of freight through the Port of Dover, as DHB and DPPT have done, is not a forward-looking strategy.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A passenger rail link - yes that is a good idea
A freight to road to ferry link - no as it is too impractical !
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Alexander, yet again you misrepresent DPPT. Last time the subject of intermodal links in/out of Dover was discussed, you accused us of stealing your ideas about rail. The simple fact that rail connectivity is an obvious consideration when re-evaluating the Masterplan and that anyone who knows anything about ports and intermodal connections would look at this without prompting from any outside source escapes you.
I've said before and i'll say again here. Once the DHB proposal is rejected and the port's permanent future and ownership is settled, the new incumbents will have to conduct a full review of the 30 Masterplan, the current plan is no longer valid or appropriate. This review will have to look at and take into consideration all available transport modalities, both extant and in development, forecasts for traffic, changes in transportation patterns, etc. If DPPT are the new incumbent, then this will apply to us.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Re #135:
Richard, nice to meet you at the Dover Forever event and to learn that you are another steam buff. We have been saying on here for donkeys years that we would love to see a rail link re-established to the Marine Station. What better way could there be to join a cruise ship than to travel down from London in a rake of gleaming Pullman coaches hauled by an immaculately turned out Bulleid Pacific? We feel that this would be an additional experience adding glamour and excitement to the start or end of a cruise that the cruise operators and DHB have both missed.
The Marine Station has, of course, been rebuilt into Cruise Terminal 1. All the track has been removed and the spaces between the platforms filled in and used for carparking. All the trackwork in the station throat has also been taken up and tarmacced over for lorry parking. It would not seem too difficult or outrageously expensive to lay a single track from the mainline, embedded in the tarmac, around to a platform constructed along the seaward side of the Marine Station. Passengers could then alight and pass through the Cruise Terminal facilities to join their vessel on the other side of the terminal.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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andrew stevens;
hope your last comment you didnt mean?
there are a number of posters that have given informative views on this subject
by the way good win for dover today
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