Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Since the Race Relations Act became law it has been a hate crime to call someone a n***** or a black b******. When the Disability Discrimination Act arrived, it became a hate crime to insult people for their disabilities. Now that it's illegal to discriminate on grounds of age I look forward to the first prosecution of one of Dover's finest for calling me a stupid old fart.
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Keith Sansum1
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yes and as posters we should be consistant in our discussions, we had a local cllr also who made such comments so if dianna should go
then so should he
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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cannot see the logic keith, comparing a leading national politician with a serial record of outbursts with a councillor in a forgotten corner of england does not hold water in my view.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I don't share your view at all howard.
if we feel people in high positions and to be looked up to
whether in govt or local councils
then our arguments should be consistant
or are we saying at a local level it's fine to make such comments?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no keith we are talking about someone influential that insists on making poisonous comments that are taken on board nationally.
even tonight she is still in the shadow cabinet, sad sack ed is inactively condoning racial discord.
Peter, I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that we don't need to try to protect vulnerable groups? Is it ok to verbally - or otherwise - abuse people with disabilities without sanction?
Peter, I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that we don't need to try to protect vulnerable groups? Is it ok to verbally - or otherwise - abuse people with disabilities without sanction?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howard;
dont agree with you
bern;
i was wondering that to
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Not at all, Bern. I don't know how you could construe my post in that way. Perhaps you should take it more literally than you did on first reading?
Actually I was called a #%^*+*^%# old ¥•+^## yesterday for daring to point out to a yob that he ought not to be riding his mountain bike at speed through pedestrians in Castle St. That was what triggered my thinking.
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Sorry Peter - it is a little ambiguous. I am somewhat exercised by the abuse dished out to, in particular, people with learning disabilities having witnessed it way too much. We really do have a duty to make sure people who need it have some protection.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern; agreed (again!!!!)
peter;
i agree with you on cyclists to!!!!!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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on that cyclist peter
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Bern, are you then saying that elderly people do not deserve the same level of protection and respect as ethnic minorities and the disabled?
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Have you reported the abuse Peter ? Without that a prosecution is unlikely
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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That part was light-hearted Sarah. I was not offended in the least anyway.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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would be nice to hear the views of a constituency member on the merits or otherwise of the dreaded m.p.
over to you tom.
So was mine Peter
Peter,
Ross Miller
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Whilst all reasonable people would agree that people should not be discriminated against because of differences they can do nothing about (gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability & age) does criminalising that unreasonable behaviour really solve the problem or improve the situation for those with the difference?
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Yes. It validates the offence caused and enables a proper conversation about the roots. There may be a time when that changes. And we need, also, to use other tools and a degree of judgement - rather like the H&S laws, based in good intentions but interpreted by eejits.