Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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think we need one step back
firstly do people want double yellow i suspect not
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Double yellow lines are quite prevalent up there Brian; it has been confimed to me that enforcement doesn't only happen on a Sunday morning and to prove that point, I was walking the Clarendon's the other day - during the day and I saw a Parkibg Services van driving round the area.
I do agree with Keith that we cannot force a one-way system on the residents; there isn't the statistics to prove a high accident record around the streets to justify it. It my be wanted by a vocal few, but with a lot of transient people in the area, what is supported at one time, may well be rejected at another.
Traffic speed on one-way streets is shown to be higher and could be more dangerous than it is now.
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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unless a 20mph limit is put in place.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we keep hearing about 20 mph limits in side streets, brighton is bringing that into force soon.
the problem is one of enforcing it, there are simply not enough traffic policepersons.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard there are other ways to make them slow down,police men/woman should be left to catch criminals.[if they can[.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well wonder what the people of the clarendons want??
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Well keith, one thing is for sure- the people of High St, London Rd, Buckland Ave, Barton Rd, Frith Rd, Maison Dieu Rd and Castle St/Church St/Dolphin Lane etc, didn't want the ludicrous one-way system we have all grown to know and love. But they got it anyway. That was a case of 'if it's not broke, keep fixing it until it is broke'.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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three quarters wouldn't even know the name of the road if they didn't recieve any post keith.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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PETER;
I think we are on the same road(lol) i recently discussed this with a community group, and there wasn't an overwhelming support for any change.
so it would be silly to go down the road of one way systems, double yellow lines, 20 mph speed limits etc
without first finding out what the people want
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Quite agree, you wouldn't have boy racers tearing past the Girls' Grammar at 50 mph if it was still two-way.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what the people want is irrelevant if emergency services vehicles cannot get through.
parking should be on one side of the road only in both of the clarendons irrespective of whether a one way system comes in.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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there is a little confusion around the clarendons that a one way would solve the parking problems when in fact the 2 issues are completely seperate, to make clarendon one way will in fact get the boy racers as they will know they have the whole street togo from top of longfield rd(down hill) alreasy used by some taxis as a shiort cut/race track)
a one way will not do anything to solve the parking problems the cars will still be parked both sides of the road
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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agreed keith that is why i would like to see parking on only one side of each road.
the pavements are not wide enough for buggies to get through when cars have theor wheels up on the kerb.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howard
whilst i apprreciate the problem, where dop all the cars go? who decides which side is to be car free?
will local residents support not having cars one side of the road?
i think it wont get support
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I gather from people I know who live in that area that while many houses have parking at the rear they only park on the road because a) they can and b) if they don't, some commuter will park outside their house all day. The problem would be better dealt with by a residents' permit system in my view. One permit per household.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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thats one way forward peter
but maybe finding out what residents views are putting all these proposals together might be a way forward
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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people have to take personal responsibility when buying a car, it is not up to the council or any other body to take responsibility for providing parking spaces.
there are stacks of parking spaces at the rear of both roads and garages available to rent.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Residents parking permits cost money and many of those living round there couldn't afford the permit.
I'm not sure there is any real solution to the problems of one-way or car-parking; it has evolved to be what it is now, probably because it is the best of a bad situation.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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roger and i probably agree on this one.
As i'v stated on previous posts, none of the emergency services have problem with present situation and say they can get to any emergency.
parking is not a problem for just the clarendon's but throughout the district/country and likely to worsen as more and more cars come onto our roads, said to get realy high up to 2022.
putting double yellow lines down one side would be unfair to whatever side you chose to enforce it on.
so we not much further forward on this one.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Not living in the area I feel I should keep out of this one but one small observation, if a driver can afford to run a car they should be able to afford a parking permit.
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