Ross Miller
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That would be the same borders watchdog that was hired by the last government & allowed to work from home?
Yes £1m is a lot of money but a lot less than the last government spent on its failed Rwanda scheme which deported exactly how many people Bob?
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Reginald Barrington
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"That would be the same borders watchdog that was hired by the last government & allowed to work from home?"
"No." That would be David Bolt.
Arte et Marte
Captain Haddock
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Ross Miller wrote:
Yes £1m is a lot of money but a lot less than the last government spent on its failed Rwanda scheme which deported exactly how many people Bob?
You realise what a waste of money the Airbus (for example) would have been if it was scrapped just before the first passenger went on board?
Meanwhile in the alternative universe of the ECHR:-
Nigerian woman who failed to secure asylum in Britain eight times is finally granted the right to stay... because joining a terror group boosted her claim
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14391537/Migrant-failed-asylum-Britain-eight-times-granted-right-stay-terror.html"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Bob, as you well know, there will always be a cost incurred by the state when deporting people from the country, we can debate whether those costs are proportionate.
The last government spent an inordinate amount of money on numerous schemes that had zero effect on the overall number of people both entering the country or being deported. The current government, for right or wrong, has at least done what you have wanted and deported people.
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Weird Granny Slater
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It's almost as if there's an elite policy consensus and the polling booths are merely stage scenery dragged out every 5 years or so at which the entertainers can point and go 'Oooohh, look at that democracy, don't it make you proud to be British'.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Ross, fwiw here's the various removal/returns/deportation figures. Updated figures should be out this month.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/deportation-and-voluntary-departure-from-the-uk/
The recent supposed increase in removals is mostly performative from 'enforcement'. When I was doing this in London in the 70/80s we were told there were roughly 200,000 'nickable' foreigners in London. We did not even have staff at either ISIS or the IU to respond each morning to people who had been picked up by the police overnight. Many ended up walking and 'disappearing'.
Latest estimates show 1 in 13 'Londoners' is an illegal immigrant. It's like shooting fish in a barrel!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/01/22/one-in-13-in-london-is-an-illegal-migrant/
Whilst it is comparatively easy to remove to such as Albania (with an agreement negotiated by the PREVIOUS government) it is still well-nigh impossible to get a travel document out of, for example, the Nigerian High Commission.
N.B. From 2015 to 2022, the UK Government provided approximately £1.96 billion in bilateral Overseas Development Assistance (ODA) to Nigeria and has allocated £72.3 million in bilateral ODA for financial year 2023/2024. You'd think they might issue a few passports after such largesse?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Smashing the Gangs - latest figures.
A total of 108,138 people applied for asylum in the UK in 2024, the highest number for any 12-month period since current records began in 2001. The number is up 18% from 91,811 in 2023, according to figures published by the Home Office.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Today's figures also show that we handed out UK citizenship to 270,000 people over the past year - the highest number ever.
That includes 24,888 from India, 22,153 from Pakistan, 12,630 from Nigeria, and 8,453 from Syria.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Good question.
I've been informed that £53 million was spent on legal aid for immigration/asylum tribunals in the latest financial year - hundreds of millions over the years.
Why is the British taxpayer funding efforts from foreign criminals and illegal migrants to remain in the UK?
Rupert Lowe MP
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Further stats from the Home Office's latest figures...
We're told that just 4,995 small boat arrivals have been 'returned' between 2018 and 2024.
BUT, 25,591 have had their asylum claims refused, and 18,962 have 'withdrawn'.
That's 44,533 people. (Dover. 36,363 Population [2021] – Census.)
Where are they? Does the Home Office know? How are they supported? Where are they housed?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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POTUS opines-
'We should spend less time worrying about Putin, and more time worrying about migrant rape gangs, drug lords, murderers, and people from mental institutions entering our Country - So that we don't end up like Europe!'
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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To flag up the 'obvious'.
Small boat figures are shocking but why are we allowing people in on visas for them to arrive THEN claim asylum?
Tony Smith CBE
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33664109/small-boat-figures-shocking-visas-claim-asylum/"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Third of UK population to be first or second-generation migrant by 2035
https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/third-of-uk-population-to-be-first"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
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Who really cares or worries about the above fact. I suspect that every single person in the UK has immigrant origins in their family tree, some ancient and some within the last hundred years or so.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:Who really cares or worries about the above fact.
Said Moctezuma hearing that Hernán Cortés and a couple of hundred Spanish had fetched up on the beach .......................
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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That was about 500 years ago, a bit of a desperate example but I guess you will find another more pertinent example just so you can keep this thread active.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:Who really cares or worries about the above fact...
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Move along. Nothing to see here.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
