Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Keith Sansum1
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Tunbridge wells will be an interesting one will UKIP win seats off tories?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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OK Heres my predictions for Local elections and this area.
Tories will hold on to overall control
labour win approx 20 seats
UKIP doesn't win any seats
My prediction for winners in the more local area
Dover West seat
Geoff Lymer (con)
Dover North
S Mannion (con)
Dover Town
Cowan (lab)
Brivio (lab)
Deal
T Bond (con)
A Friend (con)
Sandwich
L Ridings (con)
let's see how close i get
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, the vast majority of people in Kent won't vote, and of those that do vote, 60% of the vote will go to UKIP.
You cannot prove otherwise, but if you ask around in Town, you'll be reassured that this is the case!
The last time Labour won in Dover, in Tower Hamlets, only 10% of the electorate turned out in that ward.
Adding to that, you fail to register that on average, 5 Conservative councillors a week in England, both County and District, leave the Tory party and go over to UKIP.
In the past month, UKIP have won several council by-elections in England.
You keep saying: "unless UKIP win seats..."
Keith, UKIP have been winning seats at council level more than Labour or Tories this year.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
putting aside voter apathy(as at this time cant change that)
on actual people that do vote iv predicted the above
now im sure when UKIP dont win any seats at KCC level you will use the apathy argument.
unless you win seats in Kent at this election9as you say on here UKIP should win control?)
then if you dont win a seat you will be seen as no more that a minority protest party
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, from the Telegraph 21 April 2013:
"(Conservative) party chiefs particularly fear a UKIP surge in counties including Essex, Kent, Gloucestershire, Northamptonshire, Lincolnshire, Suffolk and Norfolk."
What you are predicting, Keith, is one thing, what the Tory party predicts is a UKIP surge in Kent and along the whole East Coast, and elsewhere too in the Shires.
You're thinking in terms of four years ago, Keith, when forecasting election results.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
these are mine not the torygraph
As i say the only breakthrough may come in Tunbridge wells otherwise a non event
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Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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A leaflet posted through my door by the Conservatives claims that the local Labour party has raised our taxes by something in excess of 30%(cannot give the exact figure as I threw the leaflet away as a work of fiction). As I have only been in the UK 1 day in the past month I have obviously missed an election of District councillors as I thought the Tories were the local decision makers on finance. Perhaps they were referring to the Town Council which I assume is still Labour controlled, in which case that should have been stated and the exact amount in monies that each home would be expected to pay.
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ken
please dont expect truth from your tories
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Jan Higgins
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That leaflet from the Conservatives was full of waffle that told voters absolutely nothing about what the Tories will do if they get in it was pure anti Labour. A complete waste of time but at least it was printed locally which is the only good thing I can say about it.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I agree that too much Tory publicity material is negative and that they should focus more on their own priorities and policies and not print knocking copy.
But Labour's historical administrative ineptitude coupled with its apparent belief in financial fairies provides them with a target-rich environment which is too tempting to resist.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Ukip's popularity will hit Tories hardest, says professor
Professor John Curtice says about 16% of Tory supporters at last election would now vote
for Nigel Farage's party
Ukip's leader, Nigel Farage, is bullish about his chances in the local elections.
Nigel Farage, the UK Independence Party leader, presents the "most serious fourth party
incursion" into English electoral politics since the second world war - with the Tories as the
main victims, the leading political scientist Professor John Curtice has claimed.
Amid Tory fears that Ukip is on course for a strong showing in next Thursday's English
county elections, putting Farage in a strong position to top next year's European parliamentary
elections, Curtice says David Cameron is the biggest victim of the surge.
Curtice, the professor of politics at Strathclyde university, says that around 16% of Tory
supporters at the last election say they would now vote Ukip. This compares with 8% for the
Liberal Democrats and 4% for Labour.
Support for Ukip, currently an average of around 12%, started to rise after George Osborne's
so called "omnishambles" budget of last year, according to Curtice in a paper on the local
elections for the Political Studies Association. "That has been followed by a remarkable increase
in support for Ukip whose current polling rating is on average at least equal to that of the
Liberal Democrats and which now threatens to pose the most serious independent fourth party
incursion in English electoral politics in the post-war period," he writes.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Hi Ken.
Their leaflet was referring to an increase of the Town Council's precept of 34% - not the same as the Town Council's increase on Council Tax, which was around 5%.
I don't have any input to local Conservative leaflets, but if I did, they would be much more about what I would do and have done.
I don't have too much of a problem if the criticism of Labour was perhaps more accurate; my goodness, there's more than enough to be critical about them on.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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just as there is of the conservatives roger
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Don't shop at the store next door!
they offer nothing of worth
don't shop further along, what's more
at the third or the fourth
Don't shop at the store next door!
you know well what they sell
you've shopped there before
what more is to tell
Don't shop at the store next door!
never shop there again
scratch no more at that old sore
remember the pain
Why not shop at the store next door?
Don't you recall all their mess?
We say nothing of our own folk lore
and we trust you wont guess
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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interesting that no one challenged or made alternative suggestions to my predictions
running scared???
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#13
Is there a Tory pledge to reverse this, should they win overall control?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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just had another look at the leaflet from the blues, i can't see anything there that relates to county council work, just rambles on about the port, the hospital, immigration and how naughty the reds have been in government. no wonder people are running to ukip.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I understand that Tory election leaflets make strenuous efforts to discourage the use of powerful telescopes...
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Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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If the power remains with the Conservative group as predicted by Keith, then nothing will change and it is totally irrelevant who is voted in or out in Dover. The people getting in will benefit from the generous KCC allowances and those who get kicked off will be terribly sad that they have lost theirs. £12,827 each last year, plus expenses. Better than being on the parish council eh!!
