Keith Sansum1
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ok tom
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"Shortly after evangelising for the London Living Wage and at the precise moment when media attention was focussed on the US presidential election, Boris Johnson quietly announced yet another inflation-plus rise in the capital's public transport fares and a huge hike in the price of riding a "Boris bike". A single bus trip by Oyster pay-as-you-go will cost £1.40 from 2 January next year, while the price of hiring a bicycle will double."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/09/metropolitan-lines-boris-johnson-fares-increasesIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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his opponents did warn of this prior to the mayoral election.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh no.
boris cant do to much to make himself unpopular
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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punished for wanting a living wage
"...he earns £14,500.97 a year with no overtime. Apart from child benefit, the family receive no other state support. Rent is £500 a month; bus fares £72 a month. Ventura has taken out a loan of £200, the interest payable over a year, with a money-lending company, Speedy Cash. The loan will cost Ventura £362.43."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/10/living-wage-cleaner-clegg Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well what do posters think?
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think Mr. Ventura's employers were totally wrong and I wish him success in his campaign.
It is a difficult consideration and as mentioned in the report, should it be more people working at a lowerr rate or less people working at a higher rate ?
There was a mention in that report about giving the employers who pay the living wage, a subsidy to make up the difference so it isn't an added burden. Heard that on here somewhere !!
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"• Polly Toynbee is right to ask "why should taxpayers subsidise Scrooge employers?" As a basic minimum employers should be paying their staff enough to live on - it is the right thing to do. For many it also makes business sense. Recent research by Queen Mary, University of London, shows that when a living wage is paid the reputational benefits help to win new clients; staff leaving rates fall by 25%; and employees are more loyal and positive.
This is not to deny there are wage costs attached. For organisations employing large numbers of low-paid staff, the worries about costs need to be listened to and managed. Research by the Resolution Foundation shows that for listed firms in construction, software and computing, banking and food production, average wage bill increases from implementing a living wage are small - around 1% or less. Why are we subsidising these firms to pay poverty wages?
Bharat Mehta
Chief executive, Trust for London"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/11/politics-of-poverty-level-payIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Who pays the subsidy?
As I have said on my blog, the living wage campaign is bonkers and will just lose jobs. Subsidy is a route that always fails because you are just recycling money inefficiently.
Better to increase the nil rate band of tax as I explained. Why on earth should anyone pay tax at the level of the minimum wage? Raise the tax and NI threshold and you get your 'living wage' without extra costs to an employer, no loss of jobs and no subsidy - it will spur on growth too.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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there are some interesting ideas
but is the cobbled together govt listerning?
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I remember about 50 yrs ago my father-in-law paid over the odds to his staff, in return they gave their loyalty, respect and he never had a problem with any of them.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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careful jan your sounding a bit like a lefty lol
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Actually Keith he was a staunch Conservative supporter but never a member.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith misses Jan's point, pay people fairly and in return you get loyalty, its a two way thing.
What employers object to is being told what to do by clueless people.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a lot of companies that offer low paid work pay above the minimum wage to ensure they keep the best staff.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the subject crops up again at a more local level.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-23989132Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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If you flood a country with people that come from country's that have a very different GDP. The minimum wage is very attractive ,when you sent the Money back home .
EU Pull factor.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't see the argument here as supermarkets will have to raise their staff wages by the same amount.
http://news.sky.com/story/1519287/wetherspoon-warns-living-wage-will-kill-pubsBrian Dixon
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like the smoking ban did.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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One major business will be paying a wage above the government set living wage without putting up prices.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/606045/Lidl-living-wage-1-200-boost
