Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't consider this as platitudes Howard, but a plan of action (they must had read my Plan of Action for Dover).
Roger
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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I think you'll see action Howard.
I'll await resident's responses if enforcement is applied with zero tolerance.
I have seen responses to parking fines.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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wouldn't worry to much about responses paul, only the offenders will be hit.
the vast majority of the town would be delighted.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Most smokers who toss away their fag butts would not regard themselves as offenders.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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So how do you see fag end disposers Peter?
What about gum depositors/
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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chewing gum is not that big a problem locally but if you do tread in it a bigger problem than any other litter.
cigarette stubbers are sold in poundland now so no excuse for the thousands of ends we see in town.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Chewing-gum is very unsightly and quite expensive to remove, there are areas where it needs removing - outside Halls and the Chemist in Folkestone Road and Pencester Road seem to be the worst places.
There are degrees of littering, but a zero-tolerance is a zero-tolerance.
Roger
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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I wouldn't say chewing gum is not a big problem, pavements are spattered with it in many areas. What do they do on the continent ?
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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wrap it up in the foil it comes in and dispose of it senceably of course.they are more educated on littering than we are.
Guest 753- Registered: 23 May 2012
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I remember walking along Cherry Tree Ave one afternoon, after the kids had come out of school behind a mother and 3 kids.
One of the kids finished his crisps and just dropped the empty packet on the floor so I picked it, tapped him on the shoulder
and said 'I think you dropped this'.
With that his mum turned round, gave me a dirty look and told me if I was that worried about it why don't I put it in a bin and just carried on walking.
If the parents aren't going to teach there kids that its wrong to throw litter on the ground then things will never change.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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And that is the biggest problem Ian, the parents don't care, so the kids won't either.
Unless it could be done at school, then the youngsters could educate their parents.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Think we have been over this one before, its a big problem starting at a very young age
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Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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Kath post 28 on the continent they learn this in school and by their parents not to do these kind of things as it is ruining the pride of town. If they get caught, they have to clean up this area themselves under supervision of course. most of the time its usually a group of offenders not just one. Fines dont work with youths they need to have the experience of what the person does with their sort of removing cig ends, poos or chewing gum etc.
Thats why you hardly see anything like it on th econtinent :D
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a lot of people have been saying the same over here about the punishment you mention heike, sounds fair and sensible.
i seem to remember you saying that you were brought up in the eastern bloc where a lot of stress was put on community and considering your fellow man so littering and general anti social behaviour was less than other places.
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This just reminded me of an incident about a year ago. I had a workman doing a job in my front garden, when a group of lads walked by and one of them dropped an empty drink can. As they carried on my guy shouted "OI!!" One of the lads turned round and said "WOT?" "You finished with that can?" said my man. "Yeah" came the reply. "Well then get back here and pick it up until you find a bin". The very sheepish looking boy did as he was told too lol. I think he was too shocked to even be cheeky!
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Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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I dont believe in fines... they pay and walk away nothing learned....
I dont think it would be against anything to give them these things as punishment. I remember my first time in a nightclub ;)
After it finish a couple from a group have been really sick and throw up next to the Entrance. The next Day, they came and cleared up their own mess. So it should be. They did ask for help and got it too. Its the initiative which counts.
Community work in a town needs working closely together and Youths needs to be involved in projects like it used to be.
Now its just the Theme, "My Life, my area and my community.."
I am a strong believer, If Communities all pull together with the same annual plan, then you can achieve alot more than you all can imagine.
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Weird Granny Slater
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I can't help but think that the people who drink this stuff are being sold a dud and should take on the manufacturers in the Courts. If an 'energy' drink doesn't even provide you with enough to walk the can to a bin then there must be something wrong with it.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I have been on about this, and the graffiti on Folkestone road
hardly inviting tourism
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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Not a excuse for littering, but there are nowhere enough bins around the town.
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