Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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But this was not the Defend Kent spokesman, Paul!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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paul,it allready has traffic calmig in place,they are called pot holes.
Guest 750- Registered: 12 Apr 2012
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Sorry Alexander - I just have to correct you on on small thing - the speaker was from PROTECT Kent, just in case he gets mixed up with someone else.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Quite right, Lara, sorry about that.
Protect Kent.
As said, there was no agenda at the meeting about bribes, to suggest there was is really just bringing the discussion into a pothole.
The W.H. group are trying to attempt an intelligent discussion with DDC, we are not accusing anyone of bribery.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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should hope not alex, the forum cannot afford the legal fees of top barristers.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Alexander - I didn't say that the CPRE guy said anything about bribes but I am pointing out that it was raised by someone in the meeting and doesn't help matters and shouldn't have been brought up by anyone. Just like scarmongering, rumours, heresay....
I am trying to point out things that will actually HELP your cause - I want to see all arguments from all sides based on FACTS.
I will do what I can to help the Residents Association, DDC, CGI and my own cause with FACTS
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian - the road up from Military Hill to the Citadel is one of the best roads I have seen in a long time - I was amazed when I walked up it last night !!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, it seems you are not considering the points raised by the spokesman of Protect Kent, but then that is why both sides are putting in their accounts of the meeting, so the Forum has a balanced view.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Having walked today all the way up Military Road starting from York St., I noticed there was not one planning site notice until the lamp post just in front of the right-turn to Citadel Road.
Roads left out include: almost all Military Road, Durham Close, Lancaster Road, Bowling Green Terrace, Princes Street, Cowgate Hill, Adrian Street and any other roads in that area of Western Heights.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The following is the word for word writing at the bottom part of the Planning Site Notice, for all who are interested in making a representation:
Anyone who wishes to make representations about this application should write to Planning, Dover District Council, White Cliffs Business Park, Dover, Kent, CT16 3PJ,
quoting reference number DOV/12/00440 by 06/07/2012.
The Council will not normally enter into correspondence with the public on applications.
There will be no response until the application has been determined.
Failing to meet this deadline may jeopardise the chances of representations being considered.
Tim Fisher
Head of Development Management
Dated 07/06/12.
I was unable to find any of this information on the supplied links to DDC.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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Alex, I found that the speaker spoke well, very emotive, but frankly short on valid points. Talking to him afterwards I found him very short of specific answers. All in all, a practiced speaker who knows what his audience wants to hear.
Given the coverage of planning notices elsewhere, I would be prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they either ran out of notices, and/or time, or it is an oversight.
There is space in DDC's website to 'comment' on planning applications, I would suggest that you just missed it.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Chris, I found no reference to the representation details on DDC websites, so I posted the above text.
Could it be that all of Western Heights residents in the York St./Christchurch area are systematically excluded from planning site notices, out o sheer coincidence?
Surely the increased traffic from proposed developments would affect them.
I still think Lara and Lorraine should consider leafleting a few areas on and around Western Heights to inform the people of the development proposals, and to campaign against them.
I'd be prepared to do the deliveries.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Perhaps you should let people know what is happening and let them make their own decision .... ?
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Paul! The obligation to let people know what is happening is of DDC Planning!
A campaign group cannot be told not to campaign.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Leafleting is fine so long as it sticks to facts and not conjecture, DDC planning will send letters to any householder affected I had one today regarding the Girls Grammar.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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paul,try walking it from the aycliffe side,full of pot holes and no foot path.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just to HELP as it was stated otherwise - the former officers club isn't a listed building - the only listed structures on the Heights at the Grand Shaft and associated railing and the Officers' Mess in the Citadel
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jan, DDC are not sending letters to any household on these development plans.
As for conjectures, there are two opposite camps on this matter.
The campaign group considers conjectures the claims of DDC and other supporters, such as Paul Scotchie of the Western Heights Preservation Society, that these development projects on the White Cliffs of Dover will attract tourism, generate jobs and bring a flow of cash into local businesses.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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As I've already stated, if CGI get the go-ahead from DDC, they will sell the land they own on the White Cliffs of Dover to developers in return for the quick buck.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Alexander HOW MANY TIMES HAVE TO TOLD YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you purposely doing it to wind me up ????????
No views have yet been given by the Western Heights Preservation Society and they won't until they have considered all of the information. All view here are my own PERSONAL VIEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been nice knowing you :)