Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you for the way to use words we can disagree ,thats good but it can be done in away without the rude remarks some like to do.Yes my age will be 72 when it comes round again but that will not stop me,I will say siting the next time round becauses my legs will not let me stand to long.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Garstin sir.
If the blues were true blues \of old then you could be right, but they are not even blue anymore,somthing in beween and that sir is not good for their party or the UK.their MP or alot of them have come from university to politics had no job and never been in the Army etc. The old blues party was never like that,most would have had a job or the Army first and then into politics with good records behind them,but this lot are rubbish,again said what they were going to do,like stop all overseas workers taking our jobs,and stop the ones coming in from around the world who are just over here for the ride and take back our hard worked cash.Most do not work,crime has gone up.We have no borders anymore and so on and so,the list is endless.
I know I will not get anywhere but I might or will stop the blue MP in Dover geting back in.But it will not be anybetter if the reds get back in,infact there is no way to turn. But I am still going to try.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
I did not think you were a Labour supporter Vic. that must be who you want as our next MP if you do not want Charlie as our MP. With your poor health and your age I think you are being rather selfish as far as your wife is concerned.
Most MPs under 70 will not have been in the forces as they would have been too young for National Service.
" National Service ended gradually from 1957. It was decided that those born on or after 1st October 1939 would not be required".... my husband was for ever grateful he was born on the 17th.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They could have sigh on,I done 6 years all officers like men do it that way,most officers were not National Service anyway I was in when N/S was still going.Some officers I did know were doing 3years service but most like myself were doing 9years or more.I was in the Army before my brother he went in to do his N/S but went for 6years in the end By the way the house hold cavalry would not take N/S men that is why my brother went for the 6 years he was in the cavalry,most Blues MP were in the cavalry or Guards because their family had done it before them so none were NS all 3years or more.and even going back to the 1980s still alot of blue MPs had done time in a service.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jan, are you suggesting that we are forced to either have a Labour candidate or Charlie?
Surely we deserve more choice than that!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
The choice can be larger, but the winner (probably) will be one of those two.
Roger
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Very unlikely, Roger.
Charlie has never campaigned nor voted for an EU exit or referendum, nor has Clair.
The electorate will be made aware of this. Voting for a pro-EU candidate is voting for the EU.
The British economy cannot improve so long as we play Father Christmas with open-boarders-for-all and a free-ride holiday with jobs, free council flats and welfare cheques for each and every one from wherever.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes it will be one of the main partys,what the others can do,and I will be one of them is change which one would have got in if the others had not been there.And the good thing is because we are there the main partys will have to try even more harder to win the public over and voting numbers will go up.and there is just 1% that one of the others may get to the winning post first.You never can tell,it has been done before a nohope won. All to play for.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I agree with your second paragraph Alexander - although it's not exactly how you describe it.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Then read my post 22.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Getting back to the thread title,
Claire has her work cut out to convince her own supporters she not just a clone of the party
then she has the wider electorate to convince.
UKIP and these other individual protest parties are just a short term protest
little chance of winning seats
and feel it great and an achievemant to stop others winning
not much ambition there
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, wasn't Clair parachuted in for lack of a local Labour candidate in the Dover and Deal constituency?
With such a record, your analysis is laughable.
In the Labour party policy, male candidates are not allowed to stand in the Dover-Deal constituency anyway.
What party is that?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
its called ukip alex.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Alexander
Unlike yourself im not clouded by the real world, and iv already made it clear i wont be voting labour!!!
So you point seems strange
but getting back to the thread.
Claire without doubt will do well, some through her own ability, but also because the mouse is so unpopular.
You cant become the second party when you dont even win a seat with such an unpopular cobbled together govt
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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If more proof that Milliband was the completely wrong choice in terms of the labour leadership you only have to watch his ultimately dire performance on the Andrew Marr show earlier today.
Dreadfully embarrassing spectacle.
God knows why anyone would even contemplate this twerp as a credible alternative come the next election. Those that do, I suspect, only do so out of utter frustration with the present administration a protest vote or the fact that their great Grandfather voted labour in the past.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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How can my point seem strange, Keith?
If even you won't vote Labour, I must have proved a point.
I wouldn't vote Labour either!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
lets see who's prediction comes closest philip
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We should all be looking at the next big one not one that is still over a year away.And that is the county sit in May,I have been keeping my eyes open on this one and 50 50 I will also go again for this one on my own,that way I will see how the public still see me and how many votes I am lighty to get at the G/E,there is no cost going for the county one which is a big help to myself,I will not be going round the streets and door to door anymore ,my legs will not let me do that,just hope I might get a few words up in the local press ,but I will not be calling them they will know if I am standing and the rest will follow if any.And we also have the by-election if one is called on the town council,but the reds will walk that the seat is the power house of the reds,and Mrs Smallwood was a very good cllr and always working hard,it will be a hard act to follow.I did go for it some years ago but only got a handfull of votes and anyone standing this time and not a red will only get the same.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Well lets just in the short term look at the county arena
my prediction;
Labour will take back the seat it lost In Dover
but the tories will just hold on to the Deal seats
A close contest will be fought out in the Dover Rural seat with any of the 3 able to win it
tory/labour/reg
Dover West will remain rock solid tory
(do know one other party that won this seat)
lets see how close i get on this prediction
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It won't work, Keith.
The turnout will be as low as ever, the vast majority of people here don't have any confidence in politicians.
As soon as you say "the reds", you're mentioning a party which you yourself do not support.
The anti-Labour vote is split largely between Conservatives and UKIP, and if you're talking of the local vote, people will see what local decisions are made by local Government.
Local Government is constantly telling us they have less money, less funds, need to build more houses on protected and Green areas to accommodate more migration, and have no clue how to create jobs.
Most people working in factories here don't speak English.
If I had to go by your predictions, Keith, I'd suggest your only right one here is your example of not voting for and not supporting Labour, just for starters.