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- 12 July 2013 16:49237213Brian, a week or so ago a link was posted on the Forum mentioning 68 Romanians squatting in a disused London football stadium, and a Met Police statement that they deal with scores of such cases every day.
It is already happening.
By January next year, these people will all be legally here and entitled to JSA and housing benefit.
Gov. may start using your pension to pay for it
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12 July 2013 17:22237215alex,i saw the article,but its London not dover,there is a 70 mile plus distance between the two.and futher more they must have been here for some time to build the camp. - 12 July 2013 18:32237226Brian, the scores of like incidents with illegal immigrants that the Met deal with, do not include the hundreds of similar incidents that other Police Forces in Britain deal with every day.
That link only referred to London and to once particular incident, but hundreds of similar articles could be linked to each day.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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12 July 2013 19:29237228may be so alex,but these where illegal ones that came toearly. - 12 July 2013 23:51237264Yes, Brian, and perhaps if Hague gets his way and smashes into Syria, perhaps millions of Syrians will be coming too, and millions of Iraqis, and millions of Lebanese, and millions of Jordanians.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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13 July 2013 06:49237272alex there is a distinct possabilaty that you are getting Europe and the middle east mixed up.
- 13 July 2013 11:09237285No, Brian!
Perhaps they didn't tell you that many Syrian refugees live now in camps in Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and some other countries. More and more are arriving in Greece.
The Greek government considers these people as refugees and therefore allows them to stay temporarily in Greece.
Greece is an EU member state.
If the Levant collapses into further and extended turmoil, how many more people could be heading West as war-refugees?
There are already millions of Syrian refugees.
And millions of Iraqi refugees already from T. Blair's intervention there.
Will the Government fuel more war and destruction in Syria?
"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees estimated in a report released in November 2006 that more than 1.6 million Iraqis had left Iraq since March 2003, nearly 7 percent of the total population. The BBC on 22 January 2007 placed the refugee figure at 2 million. By 16 February 2007, António Guterres, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, said that the external refugee number reached 2 million and that within Iraq there are an estimated 1.7 million internally displaced people. The refugee traffic out of the country has increased since the intensification of civil war."
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 13 July 2013 11:17237286It's also possible that they didn't tell people here how many Iraqi refugees fled to Syria since T. Blair's intervention, possibly a million people or more, cared for by Syria.
And yet the Government explains away how important it is to hammer Syria.
"Syria has offered Iraqi refugees care and assistance, and continues to do so, in spite of the limited nature of its material resources. At the start of 2007 UNHCR estimated that the number of Iraqi refugees in Syria exceeded 1.2 million, a huge influx to a country with a population of 18 million. This heavy number of arrivals has had an extreme effect on all facets of life in Syria, particularly on the services which the state offers to citizens. There has been a sharp increase in the cost of living and the unexpected weight of numbers has had dramatic impacts on the infrastructure and the economy."
http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/Iraq/08.pdfChanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 13 July 2013 11:21237287The Washington Post estimates that around half a million Iraqis are still in Syria as refugees, and as we know, millions of Syrians are now displaced too.
And Iraq is in a state of turmoil, so while Syrians are fleeing to Iraq, Iraqis are fleeing to Syria.
"Between last summer and the first months of this year, about 70,000 Iraqis headed back home (from Syria), according to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. In roughly the same period, as violence has flared in Iraq, about 41,000 Iraqis entered Syria.
The numbers indicate a seesaw movement of people caught between two countries wracked by vicious sectarian wars that are increasingly spilling over their borders."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-10/world/38415037_1_syria-refugees-damascusChanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 13 July 2013 11:26237290So, Brian: William Hague is a member of an EU government.
Am I getting Britain and Europe in the West, and the Middle East mixed up?
Will the Government restrain from pouring more fuel on the war in Syria?Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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13 July 2013 15:04237315yes alex,greese is in Europe,but turkey is Asian,and the rest are in the middle east.william hage is a northerner minus flat cap.so there you have it. - 13 July 2013 17:31237318wouldn't it simplify things if iraq and syria just swapped names to avoid confusing the rest of us?
- 13 July 2013 17:40237319brian
turkey is partly in europe hence their clubs participation in european football competitions and more importantly the eurovision song contest. - 13 July 2013 17:46237321as if things weren't bad enough for the refugees.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jul/14/eddie-izzard-syrian-refugees-iraq-video - Alec Sheldon
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13 July 2013 17:59237322Howard, Israel also participate in European football comps. and in the Eurovision. They'll want to join the E.U. next.
- 13 July 2013 18:37237325west ham had one as manager alec, worst thing they ever did - definitely eu material.
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13 July 2013 19:43237328howard,#73 that's debatable. - 13 July 2013 20:10237332on the council of europe and are in line to join the european union brian.
a cynic might say they would not be the first turkey to join. - 14 July 2013 00:39237341If the Government careered into the Syrian war, we could be in for a Third World War.
We must keep out of it, it is no joke!Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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14 July 2013 06:25237343howard would that be with all the trimmings.