Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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Still, a war of words has to be preferable to firing off shots doesn't it? Can quite see how come all you crazy men resort to fisticuffs!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
don't no what you meen ian honest.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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you will find a number of women have also posted
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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oh have you taken note kieth,good on you.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Great stuff- as thread about threads!
Never give up...
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Lesley - your lovely nan would have enjoyed this, she loved a laugh too
However ......... the witching hour approaches and we all know who will be here very soon mwah ha ha
I'm off to bed now - night night all my forumite friends, sleep well
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, you have been constantly trying to make me renege my Christian Faith by continuous ramming:
I do not have to change my declared views on the Faith, I do not need to support a political party that does not recognise the Christian Faith as Britain's sole Faith, no matter how much anyone - you included - keeps coming back and ramming me.
Because I have stated this clearly, it is surprising that you keep coming back for another try on an obsessive scale.
What you are trying to do is nothing less than attempting to make me renege my Faith.
If you want to be unbelieving, that's up to you. I have not harassed you or anyone else on account of it.
As you keep coming back on the attack, I have told you clearly that the majority of people in Britain do not vote for political parties, including in the local elections.
This in itself should be a signal to you and others.
I will continue to uphold that the Christian Faith should be taught in all British schools and be the sole Faith of this Country.
You have stated you do not agree.
This has been understood.
I'm wondering how long it will be before you come back on the attack trying to ram me and make me renege.
You are in effect wasting your time in doing so.
One example of intolerance is at the last local election in May:
It was written that I was seen going to the ballot box to vote. So I made a point of stating that I went to Church and renewed my membership of English Heritage at the same time, and did not vote.
You have posted many comments harassing me because of it. As too did several other posters.
Now reread your above line: "Where I draw the line is where Alexander appears to want to impose his view on me and others"
You, Keith, are trying to make me renege MY personal choice of life.
I do not have to support any party that does not support the Christian Faith.
And I do not have to renege Christ.
Hopefully this will clarify.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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nobody is trying to change your beliefs alex.
incidentally the vast majority of people vote in general elections.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Turn out at Generals being about 71%ish.
As previously pointed out EH is a branch of the Government that is so despised by a certain poster - yet same poster thinks not being polled (not even to spoil the paper, which at least would be registered and noted as a proper protest) and joining a branch of Government instead will 'show them' all that they are illegitimate - the logic chasm is staggering in its breadth and depth.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
General election turnout since 1945, by Year as % of registered voters.
UK:
2010 65.1
2005 61.4
2001 59.4
1997 71.4
1992 77.7
1987 75.3
1983 72.7
1979 76
1974 Oct 72.8
1974 Feb 78.8
1970 72
1966 75.8
1964 77.1
1959 78.7
1955 76.8
1951 82.6
1950 83.9
1945 72.8
http://ukpolitical.info/turnout45.htmIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a couple of points in those figures from tom.
a) the sudden drop in turnout from 1992 - 2001.
b) a high turnout is said to favour the reds but the figures say differently.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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New Zealand again leads the way...
"Voter turnout
Definition:
General elections:
The proportion of the estimated voting-age population (aged 18 years and over) who cast a vote in general elections.
International comparison:
Using a different definition of voter turnout (the proportion of the registered population who voted), New Zealand ranked 10th out of 30 OECD countries with a voter turnout rate of 79 percent in 2008.81 This was higher than the OECD median of 72 percent for recent elections. Voter turnout in New Zealand was lower than that of Australia, where voting is compulsory (95 percent in 2007), but higher than Canada (59 percent in 2008), the United Kingdom (65 percent in 2010) and the United States (62 percent in 2008)."
http://socialreport.msd.govt.nz/civil-political-rights/voter-turnout.html
This is why I push for an increase in voter registration. If the data in #50 were adjusted to include those who are eligible to vote, but who fail to register, the turnout figures would surely drop by more than 'X' percentage points.
This, I contend, leaves the Power in our Democracy where it ought to be, in the hands of the enfranchised population.
If/when everybody that has the franchise chooses to employ it there would be no such thing as a safe seat, and as I have said before, the moment this became a recognisable trend Party Politics and the options for us all for the future would change.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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Luverly word is that when it gets used a lot, RENEGE.......has a certain twang to it does it not.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Alexander
I will remind you again, as its not sinking in,
No thread have I ever said you should have the right to carry out your Christian beliefs
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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In all parliamentary by-elections over the past 18 months or so, Howard, turnout has been about 20-30%, except one which hit 51%.
As for the latest Council elections, turnout was between 20 and 30%.
There is no vast majority voting in these figures.
Political parties are losing credibility and membership is dropping away in folds.
The latest by election in Aberdeen for the Scottish Parliament had a 39% turnout.
Even this was significantly higher than the average English turnout for Parliament seats in Westminster since May 2010.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"Almost two thirds of young people have little or no trust in politicians, new research suggests.
Three quarters of those surveyed also said political parties didn't keep promises once they were elected."
Almost two thirds of those surveyed (64%) said political parties weren't interested in things that mattered to young people.
"The study, from Nottingham Trent University, is aimed at understanding why fewer than half of 18 to 24-year-olds voted in the 2010 general election.
One of the researchers, Professor Matt Henn, said the evidence pointed to young people feeling 'disheartened and frustrated' by politicians."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/18727320
The young people now will be even less inclined to vote for political parties than in 2010.
Many know they have no future to look forward to in these politicians.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Alexander
Let me try again(i'm a determined geezer!!!!)
My view;
POLITICS;
There is no doubt that politicians at all levels in the main are not connecting with the electorate,
In my time In office I had a question/answer session every month in Dover schools and its of no surprize young peoole want to engage, but want to be listened to.
And yes voting figures are low for many reasons.
BEACON CHURCH/CHURCH CLOSURES
The church council(nothing to do with DDC) Made a decision to CLOSE the BEACON CHURCH
this was a decision by the LEADING CHRISTIANS that run that church, they said falling numbers being a reason for the closure
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
post 50 gives the exact details.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, I've never suggested DDC made a decision to close a church.
See Beacon Church thread.
Howard, 20%-30% turnout in local elections May 2013.
KCC are struggling with the reduced budget, it's getting worse all the time, with one cut following the other.
It's a downward spiral. The masses are turning away from politicians.
And then there is localism that never was.
Councillor Paul Carter at KCC has not ruled out raising the white flag.
Wait till 3 million Romanians and Bulgarians come over next year!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and who says that they are coming to kent and staying.thats counting your chickens before they hatch.