Keith Sansum1
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ROSS
Having done a little homework on this posters might like to know the cost of running the place(at 2007/8 year, so obviously increase since then)
lucky peers recieve £165.50 should they stay over night
and £82.50 per day plus £71.50 office costs
the 2 opposition parties and conveyor of crossbench peers review recieve financial rewards of £475,540
tory peers £228,445
lib em peers £41, 003
every year
Total cost per year of keeping this body in place is £121.5 million per year
interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,
any views,,,,,,,,,,
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Ross Miller
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Oh i didnt say it didnt need some reform, but does replacing with it with a partisan elected chamber improve matters? bring greater oversight and challenge to government?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ROSS;
YEP radical reform that doesn't cost me an you £121.5 million a year
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Abdolutely - perhaps a limit on the number of peers & a flat rate salary rather than attendance fees and allowances.
James Madison draughted the constitutional order that put power in the hands of the Senate in the USA which he felt represented "the wealth of the nation" and contained "the most capable sett of men, who have respect for property owners and their rights and understand the need for government to protect the minority of the opulent from the majority" - sounds remarkably like the purpose of the House of Lords at least in its original intent.
Amusingly within his lifetime Madison was to end up describing the Senate, that wonderful example of an elected second chamber, thus "these stockjobbers will become the praetorian band of the government - at once its tools and its tyrant, bribed by its largesses and overawing by its clamors and combinations".
Sadly nothing has changed from when he said this in 1792 and now - the Senate and most second chambers still fit his view.
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
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