Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Marek, think ahead: post 1 has a question: where will ther evicted people go? The answer is not supplied here thus far.
The answer is that on the whole they will be responsible for finding their own. And unless there is a compelling reason, why not?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,463
ALEX
I don't care where they go they can live on the streets or find private rented accommodation like millions of other people have to do for all I care. What makes them so special.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,904
"Nobody is perfect and we all have to take some blame,"
Jan, there is no way that any of us here in Dover should take any blame for something we have no control over and happened miles away unless we have a link with those involved.
I am not 100% sure about the council house situation a good idea in theory but it could cause even more problems, suppose there are innocent family members involved why should they loose their home just because the named tenant was involved.
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That is a risk, but having dealt with challenging adults it is likely that more than one family member would be a challenge! The fact is most tenancy agreements involve the tenant signing as responsible for the group. FAct: most people don't take that seriously because thus far there have been few visible consequences.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
a problem family on the streets with no income can only mean disaster for anyone who encounters them.
they will be rehoused of course with private landlords who don't give a monkeys as long they get paid.
woe betide their new neighbours.
On the streets or not they will bring chaos with them.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It's the consequences of ones actions.
Did our fathers and grandfathers fight WW2 for this to happen?.
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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why should ordinary innocent people suffer though?
if these people are let loose they will wreak havoc on the most vulnerable.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Ordinary decent people are suffering...they are on council house waiting lists that stretch years...
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
People already suffer, Howard, they just haven't, until now, had an option. This is a bit of a Carpe Diem moment......
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,904
Do not get me started on council waiting lists, I was informed today about someone who has been living with his girlfriend in a council flat for about six months and his council flat is still in his name and not lived in. I should add both of them and her son are on benefits.
I will pass on details as I know them if any councillor wants them.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
anyone found guilty should lose council house
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
where do they go keith?
incidentally the council waiting list issue is a seperate one from the homeless issue.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
perhaps a tented camp in the local park.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
we need to find some answers and quick
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
at the moment we are just getting knee jerk reactions to the problem.
our idiot prime minister being the worst offender.
the answer lies in how we punish offenders without punishing the innocent.
maybe brian has a point?
Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
- Posts: 292
i started this and no one has answer after 57 posts !!!!!
as for other offenders , how about the prison boats off weymouth next year the oympic sailing events could go around them
, but then the offenders would have a birds eye view !!!!
i have started anothe rpost on one of harry enfield,s character,s ---- lets see how many posts we get on that one
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I beg to differ these are not knee jerk reactions they are constructive methods of punishing offenders. We can't imprison our way out of this crisis. The prisons are full so alternative methods have to be found.
1. Community Service
2. Tagging
3. Inner City Curfews for under 18 yr olds (as recently adopted in the USA)
4. Fines
6. Loss of benefits
7. Loss of housing privileges.
Civilised societies are judged by the way they deal with offenders.
I have mentioned these points before Ron.
Marek
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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"The degree of a nation's civilization can be seen in the way it treats its prisoners".
Fyodor Dostoyevsky.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)