Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Young offenders? Work scheme?
Big splash in the DE. "People Power." "Make Dover over!" "Share, show you care."

Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have no knowledge about an aviary in Elmsvale, so cannot comment on that - I know there was/is one in Connaught Park and the birds are still going strong.
Brook House was demolished before we moved to Dover, but I understand that the basement ws continually flooded because of the flood-plain there and was in danger of collapsing on its own - not evident from the outside I understand.
If and I repeat if, the tramshelter was ever to be taken away, it would be after any consultation with local people.
But, like I said, there is no thought of it being taken away.
Please Keith, don't twist anything I have put above.
Roger
I am all for local consultation, but there is also a bit of me wonders why we have to consult all the time when some things are obvious. The shelter is constantly being damaged, costs money to maintain, and would cost more to police. Pragmatically, moving it somewhere where it is easier to police, or easier to maintain, seems like a good option and would help to preserve it. Why spend money consulting about a bus shelter?????!!! Aren't there more pressing things about which to consult.
Jan Higgins
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Yes Bern.
I would have thought that however nice the shelter is when funds are low they can not keep squandering money on it.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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problem is the shelter does not look nice even when the panes of glass are intact.
rust and graffitti are make it look forgotten, someone suggested the transport museum, not sure of the logistics involved in moving it are.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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In days of yore, the locals would have mounted a watch until the culprits turned up, caught them red-handed, tarred and feathered them and chucked them in the Dour. Nothing wrong with a bit of vigilantism I say......
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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I fail to see why the glass was replaced in the first place to me it would be like beautifully icing a mouldy stale old cake.
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A terrible shame, such a beautiful piece of street furniture with an interesting hold on our past history, am I right in thinking that the panes of glass were etched?
I feel that now is the time to move it to a safer location. I know it sounds like giving in to the mindless vandalism, but if there are no measures taken to prevent it continually happening we will lose another historic landmark

Sadly in agreement - better to preserve and care for it than wait for it to be totally wrecked. We need to be practical.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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these sad shots were taken earlier.
Jan Higgins
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Surely the Transport Museum should be its resting place where it will be protected, cared for and appreciated.
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I hope this can be moved to place that will value it before it becomes so delapidated that it is past saving
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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hopefully the transport museum would be interested, if they were they would need a grant for the restoration work.
d.d.c. spend a lot of money on this, maybe they could give a one off sum to them as it would save them money in future years.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Brian , Brook House was not listed when it was demolished otherwise it would have required approval.
Watty
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It does need CCTV protection.....it not only prevents but also catches the vandals.
PS....During our county days I used to pick up Keith at this shelter...arriving early I studied this Unique
``Victorian ``architecture............it really does deserve to be saved....... insitu.
# 22....``Brook house was continually flooded and was endanger of collapsing because it was on a flood
plain.``
........someone was on the Planning Committee and wanted to put our Hospital next door..........
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I do believe that if the shelter was refurbished and redecorated, it would last longer and not need to be moved.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#36-37 Reg and Roger I agree with you both. Let's get some dynamite up the council's ****, by the way who actually owns it?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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DDC.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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The Town Council offices also flood and the basement has water in there all the time,good thing DDC dont own it as they would knock it down.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!