Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
12:0670842I have today been going round to the places I have worked over the years,and have been told there is still a job for you Vic.
I have told them if I can get my legs better then I will go back. I have put this on the forum not because it is about me, but to tell you there is still work out there and alot of it but one will not find it siting at home you have to get out there looking for it and sooner or later you will find a job,it might not be what you are looking for but it will put food on the table and pay the rent etc. So get out there not easy to do but you will find work.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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15 September 2010
12:2070852There might be work out there for you with previous collegues for the vast majority it is not so easy. That is if they were being honest with you.
My law graduate grandson took over 4 months to find work and with my daughter it took 6 months after being made redundant.
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15 September 2010
12:2170854Senior positions can take anything from 6 - 18 months. Knocking on doors won't work for those folks.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
14:5770888If there is no senior positions there is no law saying you can not put a pr of overalls on and dig up a road. Mr Higgins part of your post is right, I do know where to get a job and it has taken many years of hard work to just walk out and be told there is always a job for you Vic. And I did not say it would be easy it is very hard to find a job and also it does help if you have a car and know where and who to see but the jobs are still there but you have to find them and the work might only be for a few days or weeks or at weekends and nights and long hours,and I have taken lads off the doll to work with me doing very hard and unclean work, and they have been the best workers I have had not tradesman but I was not looking for tradesman just hard working lads.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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15 September 2010
15:5470898For your information Vic I am a rather elderly WOMAN, known to my friends as Jan
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Your previous post just made it sound so easy to go and get a job in this day and age when it is not. My grandson could not even get voluntary work down in Plymouth, he was over qualified when he applied. How daft is that.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
16:2970906I am sorry by calling you Mr so hope I can now call you Mrs,I am 68years old myself.
No it is not easy and some times if the work is not in one place, pk the old bag and move on,but pass this on to your Grandson if you are looking at a job which does not need the qualifitions he holds then do not tell them that you have them,When you fill in a Cv only tell what they need to know about the job you are going for,this happen to me years ago so after that I only put down what was needed.The reson they say you are over Qualified is that they know you will get very board with the job they give you and that it could upset the other workers or themselfs.
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
17:3570911Vic if you're 68 surely you should retire and make way for someone younger who needs the job. It's people like you who make it harder for the young to get jobs by taking one you don't need. There's no pride in taking work away from others.
I'm glad you don't know my surname so you can't call me Mrs or Mr or even Miss. If you must call me anything ma'am will do
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
17:5270920Mrs Jacqui I am not working at this time but only because I can not do it at this time.Sorry I did not see the Ma,am but i like the name of Jacqui,sorry but must go I am late.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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15 September 2010
19:2470950I am with you on this one Jacqui.
There is plenty of voluntary work of all kinds out there if you are bored.
Although I do not think one should be MADE to retire, how on earth are the younger population supposed to get a job when the old are still working and filling the places.
The government preferrence to pay out social security rather than pensions bewilders me, where is the logic. I do not mean school leavers, I mean those who are older possibly with a family collecting a similar amount, or more, as a pensioner.
I doubt if many of those who are used to heavy manual labour will be able to continue and we all know it is difficult to get alternative employment when you reach a certain age.
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15 September 2010
19:3570960Girls, I think you are being a biit unfair on our Victor. He may need to work, even at his maturity. Because of the destruction of our pension funds by the previous government many of us will have to work well beyond 65 (men and women) to be able to afford a reasonable lifestyle, retired or not.
Make no mistake, old age is going to be very tough for almost all in this country for generations to come, such is the mess Labour has created. These aren't my words, but those of specialists working in the field of old age.
Competition is going to be even tougher for everyone wanting a job, and admitting to good qualifications may become a necessity although I agree with Vic's approach to getting round being over-qualified.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
20:0570985Thank you also the blues are saying we must soon work till we are 70years old, but I am helping out,one of the comanys i went today have asked me to get alist of men that they might need if they get a big job it might be for afew days it might be longer and already I have names on that list. again do not need to be tradesman but will need to pay your own tax etc or have it stop you can not work under the old way cash in hand any company found doing that will get pulled over the coals for doing it.And need to work long hours but it is wait and see if they get the work first,I will not be taking part in that work or any other work but will just hand the names over when asked.
Keith Sansum1
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15 September 2010
21:0270999VIC
i did say last time you indicated you were to work past 65 that its fine but will make even less jobs for the younger generation.
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Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
21:2271008Thank you Jan and Keith. This is something I feel strongly about. Maybe if Vic saved some of the money he wastes on elections he's never going to win it would save him a few bob too. I seem to remember you giving him that advice some time ago Keith.
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
21:3471012Look you must read my posts and get it right ,I am not working and have not done so for the pass year ,i can not walk far let alone work where is all this coming from,I am helping some young lads get work if I can.You might not like me much and I do not care anyway but give it a rest or get right before having ago please.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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15 September 2010
21:3571013JACQUI
Advice is all it was I also advised to he needed to be part of a political party as they all have the election machinery to finance the elections
And VIC joined UKIP.
He announced then to the local mediia he was packing up, and in talking to him outside MORRISON'S I applauded him, advising him he now can give Lesley the time she deserves. he agreed.
He has since indicated he may come back.
In all seriousness having been rejected so many times locally and nationally I still believe Vic best way forward is to retire from employment, and politics.
But it is only my view.
you dont have to stand for councils/parlianment to be effective.
I hope for vic and his familys sake he listens
but at the end of the day its vic's decision.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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15 September 2010
21:3671014Sid............
Ok so we were tough on Vic but I stand by what I said. Vic is doing something a younger man could have done (paid or not) and some charitable? organisation is loosing out on his knowhow. I am unable to walk far needing support when I do but I still do charitable work which I love.
It all depends what you mean by tough, most pensioners have all they need in the way of household goods so only NEED food and clothes plus normal household expenditure. I have a friend who only has the state pension and she copes quite adequately but she does not smoke, drink or go on foreign holidays.
It boils down to social security versus pensions. The young and the middle aged need the jobs more than those of us who are past retiring age. We would be taking THEIR jobs.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
21:4271016If UKIP can not find anyone to stand at the next locals i might stand again,but I am retired at this time from politics and I can not see me returning to work because of my legs ,but yes i miss working with my mates and working in london etc and if ever I get fit again I would love to go back part-time .
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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15 September 2010
21:4471018Now now you lot calm down, I can't see our Vic going back to work even if he was desperate.
In one way Vic has got it wrong, yes there is work but not to suit everyone and in another way he has got it right, IF you are desperate then its there.
A very touchy subject this one, my Daughters boyfriend of long standing has been in this situation of unemployment for a long time due to loss of driving licence. since having it back 8 months ago things got from bad to worse but for the last 2 months decided to go self employed, It's working but very very slowly.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2010
21:4671020Mrs Higgins I do help out with my wife doing what we can, we also do not smoke or drink ,we help by puting on events in Dover and also helping out at other events to and love doing it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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15 September 2010
21:4871021ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS