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  Ok so we were tough on Vic but I stand by what I said. Vic is doing something a younger man could have done (paid or not) and some charitable? organisation is loosing out on his knowhow. I am unable to walk far needing support when I do but I still do charitable work which I love.
  
  It all depends what you mean by tough, most pensioners have all they need in the way of household goods so only NEED food and clothes plus normal household expenditure. I have a friend who only has the state pension and she copes quite adequately but she does not smoke, drink or go on foreign holidays.
  
  It boils down to social security versus pensions. The young and the middle aged need the jobs more than those of us who are past retiring age. We would be taking THEIR jobs.

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