Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Gadaffi allegedly captured according to Sky News .
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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he can expect a severe ticking off.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Quote from Al Jazeera News,
Abdul Hakim Belhaj, a NTC military chief, has confirmed that Muammar Gaddafi has died of his wounds after being captured near Sirte.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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mmmm a bullet between the eyes while kneeling down I expect. What the man deserves.
Wasn't it only a week or so ago that Alexander was warning that Gaddafi has gathered tens of thousands of Touregs and would destroy the rebels and embarrass our government?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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No Barry, he was talking about UKIP members.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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i am sure there where some tories in there somewhere.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes indeed the 24 hour channels are showing pictures of Gaddafi being dragged through the streets. The pictures are chaotic but in several areas you can see its him, covered in blood.
Chance now to put this war to bed. Libya will have the opportunity now to rebuild and become quite prosperous, one thinks of the oil revenue, with the wealth hopefully spread more evenly around the population.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the struggle for power threatens more bloodshed and i hold out little hope for immediate peace.
the dragging of the body through the streets sums up the attitude of the new elite.
there was never any chance of bringing gadaffi to trial as most of the rebel leaders were working for gadaffi at one time and were guilty of carrying out his dirty work
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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A trial would probably have been more dangerous for too many in the new "government" than his escape. I am sure that his capture was more of a brutal execution than a military arrest.
The number of opponents already gathering against the provisional government does not speak well for its longevity and I don't think any side will be thanking the allies for their bombings in a few months time.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
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Barry, I had written: ten thousand Tuaregs, not tens of thousands.
The Colonel, according to some reports first hand, was killed by a NATO airstrike over Sirte as they bombed a convoy of cars.
That there was such airstrike has been confirmed by the commanding NATO officer operating in Italy.
Peter, I have never made any reference to UKIP when writing about Libya, but was expressing my own views, namely that the Government in London should have kept out of it and asked the two sides to come to talks and a peaceful solution. And that the UN charter was abused by Call me Dave (Col. Dave).
Furthermore, I was stating facts as I found them on the news, with references to sources coming from many different channels, and not publicly supporting either side involved in the Libyan civil war.
UKIP has not been involved in the Libya war, and I have never dragged UKIP into it.
As I publicly stated at the start of western military involvement in Libya, I would never go againt our Country as the rebels did against theirs, but seek the Democratic solution.
Adding to this, I would never ask a foreign power to attack Britain, nor would I join a foreign power that militarily attacked our Country, but would take up my position on the seashore rifle and bayonet in the hand to fight any invader, regardless of whether it would see me fall, as I wouldn't choose slavery in place of British Independnce.
I would never surrender!
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Relax, Alex, it was a mild leg-pull.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you're worried that alex will be turning up with rifle and bayonet peter.
none of us like it up us.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Also, Barry, I didn't write that Col. Geddafi would destroy the rebels. I didn't write what would become of the war.
I think the lynching to death of Col. Geddafi, shown in Sky News, after NATO planes bombed his car convoy to prevent him getting away, and Col. Dave's triumphant public speech in support of what happened, and all that preceded it, sums up a shocking episode that tells us that Col. Dave is not what we call of British spirit.
A coward, that's what he is! Col. Dave fought a cowardly war. He's not man enough to stand up and fight a fair fight!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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Gaddafi duck had his leg pulled Peter.........and a trigger.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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So help me, I'm almost agreeing with Alexander (although if it came to an invasion of this country I would have his back). From all the accounts so far of Gaddafi's demise there is nothing there for anyone to be proud of and the violence and bloodshed in Libya is far from over, it just got more difficult for NATO to decide where to bomb.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
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Lets now hope that the people of Libya can move on, not nice pictures but the man got what he deserved, reminiscent of many of those kind of leaders who rule by terror and suppression of its people,Something we as a country are lucky enough not know.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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It is hard to imagine the ecstasy at his capture and his killing by people who have suffered for so long under him. It is not a glorious action but understandable by those who have seen loved ones disappear or be murdered in front of them through his oppression.
Hopefully the reconciliation that is talked about will be achieved and the country will be able to move forward.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I am not optimistic about this. There will be many scores to be settled before we have any semblance of peace and I fear Libya will descend into a spiral of anarchy before it gets better. Tribalism will continue to rear its head and I think in two years the country will resemble Somalia. Sad but true, and the result of the West jumping in without considering the end game.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I must say I think you are right Peter how many times have we seen this in the pass,it is payback time,sad but true.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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When T. Blair marched and bombed his way into Irak and Afghanistan, he didn't take the responsibility for the outcome, but left it for the Irakis and Afghans and many western soldiers.
The blood is still pouring today because of it.
Old Camers will do the same, he'll leave it for others to sort out.
Trigger-happy Blair doesn't bother or care about the hundreds and hundreds of deaded and wounded British soldiers coming back from Afghanistan 10 years on.
I don't think anyone really knows how many tens of thousands of Irakis have been killed or maimed in Irak, and how many hundreds of thousands have fled the terror and gone to other countries, since the trigger-happy "liberation" of Irak.
I hope no-one comes up in the future suggesting sending British soldiers to Libya. If so, my message is: go yourself and leave us others in peace!