Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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PaulW did not tell us how to vote, he did advise us that some documentation was missing, but not by design, not to deceive the Scrutiny committee.
Keith, in your post 53, you say John told you that PaulW TOLD us how to vote: two things, John was not at out group meeting so how can he (honestly) say that and secondly, it's isn't true to say PaulW told us how to vote - he never does; he did give us more info. which helped us change our minds.
John did not attend the Scrutiny committee, yet you keep quoting him - why ?
As in any scenario, you make a decision on the information before you; if however more information comes to you, you have to be honest with yourself and re-appraise your decision - and that is what happened. That simply can't happen if you are a Labour Councillor though, you have to vote the Party way
The Labour person who was most vocal on Monday didn't attend the Council meeting to air her views, I have no idea why she couldn't turn up on Wednesday, but it would have been a good opportunity to speak.
Whatever an individual Labour person thinks, they can only vote on party lines, so if the party decides to vote on a really stupid point (for example putting back the Core Strategy back to square one, or giving builders and developers cart blanche at Whitfield, with no protection for the residents at Whitfield) then even if a few of them feel this is daft, they still have to vote for it.
Someone said about PaulW leading the Conservatives by the nose; this is so not the case, but exactly fits the description of how Labour work. It would obviously suit the Labour people to put this wrong idea forward, but it simply is not true.
Thank you for your comments of support Marek and your's too Vic.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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ROGER
Nice try to cop out, i think the point has been completely missed and i won't get into this political point scoring as it benefits no one.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I haven't copped out on anything Keith, not at all.
I'm not sure what point you think has been missed - if you are talking about developing Whitfield or not, that decision was made some time ago; if you are talking about protecting the people of Whitfield against the area being an adhoc building site for over 25 years, then we have done the right thing by approving the SPD - it gives Whitfield residents the best possible guarantees.
If Labour had been in power and given the stop-sign on the SPD, the people at Whitfield would have been blighted for all those years and blamed you for doing so.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Thankfully roger i'm not in all of that now, i will sit back for a while i'v made my point, maybe part of my point is for another thread, i will wait to see how this all developes and see if another thread is required
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I find this thread amazing .People posting that were not present at the LDF ,Scrutiny or Extraordinary Council Meeting .People in the Public Gallery without the Documentation on which decisions were made .
Councillors at Scrutiny meeting absent from the Council meeting and those who were at Scrutiny not speaking .
Sitting as I do next to the Chairman you can always make a rough assumption as to who will speak
In fairness I would say Cllr Watkins was directing some of his speech to members of the public .
Opposition Councillors had been briefed and updated .
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