East Kent Hospitals Trust- fit for purpose or not?
- 21 July 2011 09:20115920Both front pages of today's Dover papers highlight further failings of our local NHS hospital trust to cater to the needs of Dover people by delaying the submission of plans for the new hospital by a further 18 months beyond the promised date. Plans will apparently not now be submitted until September 2012.
Charlie and PaulW have managed to wheedle this information out of the Trust where the local newshounds failed.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 21 July 2011 09:22115923i thought that the advantage of building on the buckland site was that no planning application was required.
how on earth can the paperwork take this long? - 21 July 2011 09:48115929I am not happy about this news and will be taking it up after I read the paper.At the last meeting I went to with the NHS trust as a member we was told that building would start this year and the Hospital would open in 2013,I will find out about it all A.S.P. indeed I will try and see the chairman himself but first I will have to read what is being said.
- 21 July 2011 14:29115991Not in the least surprised. It's obvious that Dover is well off the map as far as any government minister is concerned. Lack of healthcare, poor roads, zero investment ...... need I go on?
- Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
21 July 2011 14:47115995To answer Peter's question the response is a definite no. For years they have bloody-mindedly did what they chose without regard to the population they should serve. After working with them for 38 years I am glad that my association ended when it did.
To get back to basics, all three major hospitals in east Kent are stretched to breaking point, a fourth acute unit is needed not a back street clinic. It won't happen of course.
TerryQuis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 21 July 2011 14:54115997what is desperately needed now is mr lansley to visit dover, shake hands with local dignitaries, get his photo taken then disappear home and forget all about it.
sorry just remembered he has already done that. - Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
21 July 2011 15:19116006Quite simply, it is not good enough to keep putting the improvements off.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
21 July 2011 16:08116017i share everyones frustration
and terry is rightALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 21 July 2011 16:59116034So what are we going to do about it?I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 21 July 2011 17:15116038Become a nuisance officially
. I'm a public member of the East Kent Hospitals NHS Trust, one of about 500 including our Vic, anyone can join provided you live in the area covered and it's an official route to make your views known.
http://www.ekhuft.nhs.uk/patients-and-visitors/members/become-a-member/#Benefits
Once you have become a member you can apply to attend the AGM on 27th September, it would be good to get a load of angry Dovorians turn up.
There are three members from the Dover constituency elected to be on the Council of Governors, our current ones are Liz Rath, Laurence Shaw and Stephen Collyer. You can let them know your views by writing our emailing with the heading fao *** (I shall be sending my views to each of them) or with an obvious Dover title, details below.
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"Members are able to elect representatives onto the Council of Governors which holds the Trust's Board of Directors to account."
The Board of Directors works closely with the Council of Governors to ensure that it understands the views of Governors, and through them, the views of members.
The Council of Governors has a number of statutory duties, including appointing the Chairman and Non Executive Directors and ratifying the appointment of the Chief Executive. The Council of Governors also determines the remuneration and terms and conditions of the Chairman and Non Executive Directors, receives the Trust's Annual report and accounts and auditor's report, and appoints the Trust's external auditor. The public and staff members of the Council of Governors are elected from the Foundation Trust membership by the members and serve for terms of office between two and three years.
You can contact the council of governors by emailing governor@ekht.nhs.uk or by letter to:
The Council of Governors
Membership Office,
Freepost RSGJ-CLYR-UCKY
Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother Hospital
St Peters Road
Margate, CT9 4AN - 21 July 2011 17:22116041wish you luck ray but i think you are wasting your time.
the meetings will start with an earnest "we are hear to listen and take on board your concerns" etc or very similar.
they will then go away and continue what they had decided before the meeting. - 21 July 2011 17:26116044Defeatist attitude Howard
- Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
21 July 2011 17:47116048I suspect Howard is right though, Ray.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 21 July 2011 17:53116050Reg Hansell has so far been quiet on this one today, what do you think Reg?I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 21 July 2011 19:17116063It is possible to make a difference, Howard, if you keep the pressure up and add in a good dose of shame with a side order of legal challenges.It may not be as fast as we like or in the exact direction we might want, but it is important to be properly heard, not "local authority consultation" heard.
- 21 July 2011 19:20116065bern
ask terry who has been involved for nearly 4 decades what successes local people have had.
all these forums are fronted by people that have been on training courses on how to control the public. - 21 July 2011 19:23116067Then it's time to get some public who've also had the training to confront them, "They don't like it up 'em"
- 21 July 2011 19:24116068you may well be right mr nuisance, together vic and yourself will form a mighty frontline.
- 21 July 2011 19:49116074Howard has a point - there must be a body of us in Dover who are practised in being a pain in the BTM............I include myself in that.
- Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
21 July 2011 19:58116075Sadly negative attitudes loose everything
What we need is to protest in every possible way -
email the bod members of the trust
email the minister
write letters to the press
become members and turn up at the AGM
If the current elected members do not respond turf them off and elect new ones"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi