Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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DOVER TOWN INVESTMENT ZONE
LEGAL AGREEMENTS SIGNED
Dover District Council is welcoming major news that legal agreements for the multi million pound redevelopment of the St James' area of Dover have been signed today.
This is a crucial step forward for the regeneration plans for this key site in Dover Town Centre, known as the Dover Town Investment Zone (DTIZ), and means the Council's development partners can move forward with exciting plans for the area.
Representatives from Dover District Council and development partners Bond City met at DDC offices today to sign the Development Agreement and a Compulsory Purchase Agreement. Bond City can now move forward to submit a detailed planning application. This follows news of Asda's withdrawal from the scheme in 2009. Bond City and the Council have been working hard to move this important project forward.
Cllr Paul Watkins, Leader of Dover District Council said: "This is a very significant step forward for this major redevelopment for Dover and the whole area. This means we have put a legal framework in place, and we now look forward to seeing the submission for planning permission. This is an important part of a bigger picture for the district, as we continue to work with partners on a growth programme for the future of the area, and to bring forward opportunities for employment, housing and regeneration."
John Laker on behalf of Bond City said: "We have continued to make significant progress and look forward to moving on to make the St James' development a success for the town of Dover, delivering exciting new retailers in a town centre environment."
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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The above is a press release which came in last night. Would have put it on the frontpage in normal circumstances. Many thanks to DDC and Paul Watkins for the info direct.
This is the all clear now to submit a planning application. Could this be the big move forward at last?
Keith Sansum1
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it's a wait and see paulb.
wonder if this goes ahead what exciting thngs we will see in this developement
considering the time bond have had to get it right(and they havnt proved that good to date) this should be an all singing all dancing project.
but the cynic in me thinks even if it goes ahead it will be a damp squib.
but hey guys let'look to the postives
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Surely, tho'
Burlington House, and its demise figures hughly with this project....
This should be removed/demolished before anything else happens....
It sucks the light out of Dover...what is the point of building anything new, until it comes down, together with the Multi Storey Car Park....
Basic design of anything would have to consider this....
Cart before the horse springs to mind.....
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I think the costs involved in the demolition of Burlington House would be fairly huge. Look at the size of the thing. The difficulty as I understand it is that they have to sell the package as a whole..as the money to do all these things will/would come from the developer who would be investing in the whole scheme. So you cant do one without the other...for the simple reason of costs.
Thats as I understand it but Im sure Paul himself can put me right.
But yes you are right Keef we have to look at the positives. As it stands today, the area is awful...so we all await development eagerly. As we have done now for several years.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought that the reason the new hotel was being rushed through was that the masts on burly could be moved across therefore meaning the building could then come down .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulb'
that was a bit tongue in cheek comment, but hey we waited so long this project should blow dover out of the water
hope planners realise lol
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I also would love to see this go ahead,but it is like a record being played over and over again.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Howard you are correct.
There will be two planning applications one for the hotel and a quick start together with one for the wider scheme.
The signing yesterday dealt with separate agreements for the hotel , retail elements , car parking management agreements ,compulsory purchase issues ,general land and associated matters.
This is the nearest we have got to any town centre development for Dover.
The developers are now spending their money to achieve an outcome.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulw;
is the indian on townwall street also set to close/move?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is what people want more than anything paul, only then will the public believe in regeneration.
the scheme although not what everyone wants is achievable and not reliant on massive capital injections as i see it.
fingers crossed there are no more hitches.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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lets continue to wait and see
whats a few more years matter lol
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Interesting to hear of the two tier development. Im assuming the first tier puts the funds in place to initiate demolition.
I know we all know what it looks like...but nevertheless here is a picture of the great monolith a couple of minutes ago showing the sheer scale of the thing, costly to shift something that big...here it is looking gloomier than ever on a gloomy morning. I often fantasise what the town might look like without it. Have done so for years though.
.....odd, but this picture might have historical significance in time.
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Keith, were you that negative and cynical when you sat on the council and were actually in a position to try to do something?
Rome was not built in a day and neither will this development. The big test now will be whether the fast tracking of the various amendments to the original planning consent results in an early start to construction; or whether our dearly beloved planning officials find a new way to stall it with pettifogging little rules, regulations, procedures, processes, little-known (and even less understood) policy documents and the like.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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I can not wait for Burlington House to go so even though I have misgivings about the development get that hotel up as soon as possible, so long as it looks better than the present eyesore.
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Our dearly beloved planning officials `found` ways to stall,with pettiflogging little rules,regulations,proceedures,little-known ( and even less understood ) policy documents and the like.............to stop the building of our Hospital three years ago.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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peter;
im the more positive geezer but sadly this labour idea has taken so long to come to anything and knowing dovers planning dept always doesnt bode well
but peter if you read my post in ccompleteness i did say i look to the positives and as this has the support of the 2 parties on the council hopefully it will move forward
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think that is the point being made reg, it must be made clear to them that a can do attitude must be taken.
our elected representatives have rubber stamped this development, the planners must facilitate things rather than look for obscure ways of holding things up.
anyone who has read the "local development framework" will know that there is enough leeway in there to stop anything happening.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howard
you read my lips lol
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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So it back to the Dover planning dept, well it will not be build in my life then
