Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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having spoken to gordon this morning, it appears this has the 2 parties support
and so should move that much quicker, therefore the planning dept hold this up and they will be chased.
whilst we have an officer led council, the planning dept must not be allowed to hold this one up
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Isn't REGENERATION different to Planning?...I think this particular moan about delays is a Vic Matcham baby....
I have grave doubts...if anything new is built...they will then say we cannot now pull down Burlington House and the Multi-Storey....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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much as i understand your cynicism mr norman i do believe that we are now about a year away from its destruction.
those are the words of the developers and they know that they would be taken to task if it did not happen.
documents have now been signed.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I agree Howard. I think the least we can all do is to suspend our disbelief until things start happening. Dover has a habit of knocking progress and that ought to stop.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What progress,I have not seen any in the pass 40years in the town,anyway remember what I said in 2002 Burlington house will still be with us in six years time, it was said by members of this forum I did not know what I was talking about ,and again in 2006 I updated that to 2012, yet again I was told I did not know what I was talking about,and we are just afew weeks off 2012 and yes Burlington house is still there.
So I say again it will be with us till 2018 are you still going to be brave and say yet again.Matcham does not know what he is talking about.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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there have not been any agreements signed before vic, hopefully we are moving into a new era for the town.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We will see, I would love to be wrong on this one,but I do not think so.If I am not still around then,you can say." Old Vic Matcham was right yet
again"
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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The hotel will be going up by this time next year,then the ariels on Burlington House will be put on the Hotel and Burlington House will come down, Vic might be right about 18,but not 2018 but 18 months to 2 years.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes ,I have heard it all before, we will see who is right.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Vic I am always right
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I will be telling you that in four years time when we are all still looking at B/House.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Before the actual building takes place in the DTIZ area, it would be a good idea to check the ground for archaeological finds.
If something springs up from under the ground, it could enhance Dover's heritage.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Archaeology will definately be done on the site as it would be part of any planning application rules. Areas have been done over the last 100+ years so they will know where to hone it to find anything important (Roman Quay etc)
This is a major step in the right direction, especially if Travelodge are already lined up for the site, so onwards and upwards... (apart from Burlington House that is !!)
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Alex that was all done years ago. All they found was remains of the foundations of buildings flattened by Mr. Hitler.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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But, Peter, it depends how deep the search for archaeology is. For example, the Bronze Age Boat was found in a location much deeper than the foundations of the surrounding buildings.
Layers of mud may have covered things over the ages.
I'm not thinking of ancient building foundations, but of objects that could be found and easily removed. In particular Bronze and Iron Age items.
The ancient Celts used to bury valuable objects in river-beds, and the whole area of DTIZ was the Dour estuary.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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When I spoke to the archaeologists they were surprised how shallow thevery old remains were despite the later buildings and ww2 devastation, so the possibility of more goodies is quite high
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Smart Money is on Vic.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Alex according to your argument they should remove the Roman Painted House in case there are prehistoric relics underneath.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The Roman house isn't in DTIZ, Peter.
I'm referring to the car park and former bus-garage near Russel St., assuming that they'll be taking up the old concrete and laying new foundations.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Just releasing this from its locked position now. We all want to see movement on this whole thing...so fingers and everything else crossed this time.